ForumsThe TavernThe Japanese and whales should they whale or not

38 5900
RedBlazer2
offline
RedBlazer2
64 posts
Peasant

Ok im into whale wars and totally support the Sea Shepards because they are saving whales which are an endangered species.

What do you think or believe?
Who do you support?

  • 38 Replies
knight_34
offline
knight_34
13,817 posts
Farmer

The Japanese can kill whales and dolphins, as long as they do it in a manner that ensures the continued survival of species they slaughter.

Ok im into whale wars and totally support the Sea Shepards because they are saving whales which are an endangered species.


The use of violence to support the environment may be necessary to get a point across, but it's unfortunate nonetheless.

THEY SHOULD NOT WHALE!!!!!! THEY STILL ARE AND THEY SIGNED A FRICKIN TREATY!!!! AND DOLPHINS TOO!!!!! THEY'RE KILLING DOLPHINS!!!!! DO U WANT TO KNOW Y? BECAUSE THE JAPANESE THINK THAT THEY ARE AN ABOMINATION!!!! YOU SHOULD WATCH I THINK IT IS CALLED BLOOD COVE AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO THEM!!! ITS JUST CRUEL AND WRONG!!!!


*eats dolphin* Yum.
dair5
offline
dair5
3,371 posts
Shepherd

The dolphins have a lot of mercury in them and most of the people who eat it think it's whale. In one town they even sold it at school lunch knowing it's affects.

bravehawk204
offline
bravehawk204
349 posts
Nomad

Deathopper sorry I couldn't respond earlier I was at a movie anyway, if you read one of my earlier comments on this issue you would see that I said that animals were put on earth by God for us to use (this is coming from a Christian point of view).

TexanProvo
offline
TexanProvo
408 posts
Nomad

Personally I'm on the side of the Japanese, whaling is part of their culture and they eat whale as do some other cultures. If they eat the animal and are not simply killing them for the fun of it then they are doing nothing wrong as long as they don't over harvest the whale population. As they do eat whale they should also have more of an interest in their conservation than cultures that don't due to the fact whale is profitable to them and a part of their diet. This goes into the argument that animals that are hunted are often better protected than animals that are not as someone is making a profit off of them and as such has more of an interest in keeping their numbers up. More animals to hunt more money for the community and thus the community has a larger interest in the animal's welfare.

I'll admit that I have never seen whale wars though from what I've heard of it I am waiting for the Japanese Self Defense Navy to send a destroyer escort with a whaling ship, perhaps that would raise the ratings.

Darkroot
offline
Darkroot
2,763 posts
Peasant

I'm sorry but there is so much fail in this thread. It just shows that some people do not understand why there are rules and what an ecosystem is or why it's important. This is like grade 9 basic material maybe grade 8.

[url=http://i.imgur.com/kpTtT.gif]

I support the Japanese because whaling is a big industry in Japan, and since it's an island nation they rely on fish products for a lot of things. I think that the Sea Sheppard should leave the Japanese alone and let them keep fishing and make their lives easier. If the Japanese hunt the whales into extinction that's their problem.

Where are a couple flaws with your logic 1. They don't even eat all the endangered meat they obtain. It mostly just goes into big freezers and stays there. No it's not just their problem it's the entire worlds problem it's an ecosystem and must be respected as such.

It's like saying we can't eat lobster, or cows. I know they aren't similar to whales and they aren't endangered, but it's basically the same thing.


If they were endangered then I would respect the rest of the world and not freaking eat it, culture only goes so far to justify stupidity and yes they some of the whales they hunt are endangered and illegal, they get around it by saying its for researched.

Efan, God put animals on earth for us to use. animals shouldn't have rights because the only function they have in society is to be on someones dinner plate.


1. God doesn't exist, you have no proof otherwise and to think your god is the only and most likely god to exist is *facepalm*

2. Your an animals and some animals would gladly dine on you, so god must of put you there for less sentient beings to eat?

#6: THE WORLD IS NOT YOUR ****ING KFC.

Thats....beyond true. It's like rap*** your resources and being surprised and angry when you starve.

@Maverick4 your biases are beyond the scope of sense, good luck in life.

The Sea Shepherd stops them, but they use terrorist tactics.

It's illegal to hunt endangered animals but the Japanese get away with it by other nations not wanting to ruin their relationship and business with the Japanese. Therefore it is justifiable to use non-lethal methods to preserve our world no?

Every episode they run out of fuel, when they go back into port, what do the whaling boats do? Circles around.. and kill more whales.

Every animal saved is another to breed.

You know what mission accomplished is? It's that they threw poop on the other people's deck. What they do, is that they throw sulfur on their decks.. sulfur taints and destroys whale meat. So what does that incentivise? We gotta go get more whales!


The japanese hunt continuously anyway there is no upper limit to them.

Plus they're a bunch of clowns, they don't know how to sail, but pretend they do. I haven't ever seen one where they haven't either been encircled, lead into fog, or some iceberg.

They're just a bunch of hippies.


They obviously do when the go out there many times and find such a small operation in such a vast sea. So your assumptions are wrong about their sailing, but you disguise them as facts. Funny on how you can comment on their sailing when you yourself have never done so, ironic no?

Jefferysinspiration, I will stop my argument if you can name one thing that animals can that can benefit society other than food.


Have you ever heard of the term pet? Go look it up. Also ecosystem? Brush up on your science, otherwise you look incompetent in a thread basically revolving around it.

The Japanese can kill whales and dolphins, as long as they do it in a manner that ensures the continued survival of species they slaughter.


True, but not when the species is under danger.

Personally I'm on the side of the Japanese, whaling is part of their culture and they eat whale as do some other cultures. If they eat the animal and are not simply killing them for the fun of it then they are doing nothing wrong as long as they don't over harvest the whale population.


Some of the animals they kill are endangered so there are already over harvested.

As they do eat whale they should also have more of an interest in their conservation than cultures that don't due to the fact whale is profitable to them and a part of their diet. This goes into the argument that animals that are hunted are often better protected than animals that are not as someone is making a profit off of them and as such has more of an interest in keeping their numbers up. More animals to hunt more money for the community and thus the community has a larger interest in the animal's welfare.


That a nice non-reality you have constructed there but in reality people exploit everything to go people, animals, forests, environments, people, basically anything that can be sold. Business is about making money not looking into the future to see what consequences your actions bring.

I'll admit that I have never seen whale wars though from what I've heard of it I am waiting for the Japanese Self Defense Navy to send a destroyer escort with a whaling ship, perhaps that would raise the ratings.


I'm waiting for the governments to set up and enforce the laws that were set it place and agreed upon.
jasonblamboi
offline
jasonblamboi
11 posts
Nomad

i dont know much about whales,but i would rather save bats than a whale . They keep the insect population down in certain areas especially nasty ones like locust and grasshoppers that eat all the crops. Save the whales for what so tourist can go take pictures of them, they do nothing but swim around the ocean with there mouth open and they have babies..

knight_34
offline
knight_34
13,817 posts
Farmer

True, but not when the species is under danger.


There are plenty of species of whale. However, I am quite aware that they are for the most part, endangered as a whole. The honorable thing to do would be to allow the whale population to replenish itself, but it doesn't look like it'll go there. The countries involved won't probably be able to enforce a lasting agreement.

I actually have no problem with the consumption of whale. I ought to try some.
HahiHa
offline
HahiHa
8,253 posts
Regent

I actually have no problem with the consumption of whale. I ought to try some.

There is no problem with consumption of whale meat per se, but since the hunted whales are endangered, you should make a sacrifice to your comfort for the sake of species conservation and ecosystem stability (and thus, also humanity).

For the rest, I'm on the side of Darkroot, he pretty much hits the problems.
Showing 31-38 of 38