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delossantosj
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well, for the past three days, i have been drowning myself in hip hop music. old and new. and i must say i am having a lot of issues now.

im having a very very hard time understanding why people like lil wayne are aloud to be famous. im not saying that rapping about nothing doesnt take "talent" but i swear to god, now that i have been listening to so much good stuff, i wonder why societies taste in music has gotten so low minded.

i have also compiled another list if it matters to anyone.

the top 10 greatest hip hop artists of all time:

criteria:Influence, Impact, Originality, and popularity weighed in that order

1.Public Enemy
2.2-Pac
3.Run D.M.C
4.Eric B. and Rakim
5.The Notorious B.I.G
6.Outkast
7.NWA
8.Grand Masta Flash and the Furious Five
9.Big Daddy Kane
10. a tribe called quest
honerable mentions (in no particular order):Eminem, Jay-z, LL Cool J, kanye west, Nas, Dr. Dre, De La Soul, Mos Def, Ghost Face killah, slick rick, Ice Cube, Beastie boys, Wu Tang Clan

these artists have drowned my ears lately and im just wondering what your guys' take is on my issues

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bwtwilight24
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they don't sing about nothing. they sing about life and some explicit crap good & bad.

Devoidless
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honerable mentions (in no particular order):...kanye west...


Really. So the guy who says Bush hates black people on MTV, gets drunk off of Hennessy at an awards show and interrupts Taylor Swift to state who should of won the award (with said bottle in hand), wears shuttershades -and- 'raps' about the most mundane and boring subjects ever gets slapped in the a list with Dr.Dre, Wu Tang, and Ghostface?

Shame on you. Shaaaame.
RaGzOr
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I was glad that you mentioned Run DMC. Shame they got some troubles and split up, they were really great. And Unfortunately they really ended when one of them was shot.

Legion1350
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I have to agree with Voidy here. I don't see how Kanye West deserves an award for... Well, anything, really. Now, I didn't post here for nothing. I actually do like both Run D.M.C. and Beastie Boys. Run D.M.C. just for working with Aerosmith on Walk This Way. I thought it was a rather good version of the song.

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I think any hip hop artist who thinks it's a good idea to lyrically influence the youth of today highlighting a false importance on violence and disrespecting women do not need to be famous.

Your list of good hip hop artists contribute lyrical genius - they deal with real issues.

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Beastie Boys are great, but everyone else I hate (Kanye West) or have never heard of (Wu Tang Clan). I never really got into all the Hip-Hop/Rap stuff. I have '24' and 'Dead and Gone' by T.I., and thats pretty much it.

And 'Learn Chinese' by Jin, its a really funny song.

delossantosj
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Really. So the guy who says Bush hates black people on MTV, gets drunk off of Hennessy at an awards show and interrupts Taylor Swift to state who should of won the award (with said bottle in hand), wears shuttershades -and- 'raps' about the most mundane and boring subjects ever gets slapped in the a list with Dr.Dre, Wu Tang, and Ghostface?

Shame on you. Shaaaame.



I have to agree with Voidy here. I don't see how Kanye West deserves an award for... Well, anything, really. Now, I didn't post here for nothing. I actually do like both Run D.M.C. and Beastie Boys. Run D.M.C. just for working with Aerosmith on Walk This Way. I thought it was a rather good version of the song.


legion, your oppinion is completly irrelivant in this thread, you have proved that you know nothing about rap to begin with.



yes, kanye west is a very influential rapper to 21'st rap. and hes one of the better ones. wether you like it or not, they dude DOES rap about **** other then the girls hes ****ed, the boose hes drank, and the drugs hes done

Beastie Boys are great, but everyone else I hate (Kanye West) or have never heard of (Wu Tang Clan). I never really got into all the Hip-Hop/Rap stuff. I have '24' and 'Dead and Gone' by T.I., and thats pretty much it.

And 'Learn Chinese' by Jin, its a really funny song.


if you want, i can compile a list of what i consider to be the greatest hip hop songs of all time. so you can spacifically look up stuff
hitmanvp95
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if you want, i can compile a list of what i consider to be the greatest hip hop songs of all time. so you can spacifically look up stuff


lol I see you're quite fond of your pointless litlle lists, aren't you?

And i agree with you on West being one of the best rappers ever. He's (in my opinion) a better musician than most rappers out there.
delossantosj
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lol I see you're quite fond of your pointless litlle lists, aren't you?


keep in mind that none of these lists are official in anyways lol. but yes i do enjoy making them, allows me a good thought on music and a fair amount of listening too, along with me asking my older music acquaintances what sort of impact they had in their generation and a little bit of internet research, reading articles and what not.


but heres what i think the 20 greatest hip hop songs of all time are.

Criteria: Impact, Influence, Lasting Popularity, and Quality in the world of Rap and Hip-Hop.

1.The Message-Grandmaster Flash and the furious five
2.Juicy-The Notorious B.I.G.
3.Fight the Power-Public Enemy
4.It's Like That-Run DMC
5.Nothing But a G Thang-Dr. Dre
6.I Used to Love H.E.R.-Common
7.Rappers Delight-Sugarhill Gang
8.Children's Story-Slick Rick
9.Paid in Full-Eric B. and Rakim
10.Rock the Bells-LL Cool J
11.Planet Rock-Afrika Bambaataa
12.Jesus Walks-Kanye West
13.Check the Rhime-A Tribe Called Quest
14.Keep ya Head up-2pac
15.Rosa Parks-Outkast
16.Walk This Way-Run DMC and Aerosmith
17.Stan-Eminem
18.Eric B. is President-Eric B. and Rakim
19.**** Tha Police-NWA
20.The Breaks-Kurtis Blow
Jefferysinspiration
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The fact i see no Bone Thugs in here is upsetting.

delossantosj
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i was honestly tempted to put the crossroads in the list, but i didnt think that it passed up any of the other songs on here. if i made a top 50, ya the crossroads would be in there

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Jay z? he sucks! more than lil wayne

AvengedSevenfold11
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O and kanye west suck big to!

delossantosj
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Jay z? he sucks! more than lil wayne
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oh really now? how is he worse then lil wayne, please tell me. he actually CAN rap about stuff other then the girls hes been with and the drugs hes done. he actually HAS VERY VERY good musical producing skills, in fact, last time i checked he did his OWN CD producing.

and the same thing goes for kanye west, you may not like his personallity, but the dude knows how to make music and thats a fact
AvengedSevenfold11
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oh really now? how is he worse then lil wayne, please tell me. he actually CAN rap about stuff other then the girls hes been with and the drugs hes done. he actually HAS VERY VERY good musical producing skills, in fact, last time i checked he did his OWN CD producing.


well what about this song? 67

as for mainstream rap, none of these guys touch eminem.
now my favorite rapper is Jacoby Shaddix Dead Cell

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