ForumsWEPRIf a tree falls in the woods....

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Zydrate
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And no one is around to hear it... Does it make a sound?

The answer is yes, for the love of all that is unholy. Vibrations, wildlife. It still happens.

Stop posting this in chatrooms and forums across the internet. It's an attempt at being 'deep' when it has a really, really easy answer.

That is all.

Ninja away!

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qwerty1011
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isn't this just spam? And the entire point is that, like Schrobdingers cat, you don't know because obviously if it is observed it is there but considering the entire point is when it is not observed does it make a sound you can only know through observation which means that this is a question you can never answer. That said it is even less likely than god existing so you're almost definitely right.

Jefferysinspiration
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Should this not be in the tavern?

It obviously makes a sound; it's like asking if a deaf person is alone and speaks out loud do they really make a sound?
Of course.

HahiHa
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There has been a thread exactly like that once, I don't see the necessity to come back to this again..

And to answer the question, sound is independent of whether anyone hear's it or not, so of course it makes a sound. It's a kind of definition thing though, if you define sound by the reception of an auditive signal by a living being and interpretation of said signal, then, no. But if you define sound as what it is, respectively as pressure waves emitting from an excited object, then sure.

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Yeah, I've always thought this question was a bit annoying. It's like people think the world stops when humans aren't around.

A tree that falls will still make those sound vibration thingies, even though there won't be any ears around to convert that into what we might consider a sound. So they'll still make the sound, but it won't be heard.

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yes it makes a sound. but whenever i hear this question in hebrew they use the word "noise" and not "sound". if its noise then i actually think the answer is no. because noise is a term that changes for every individual unlike sound that doesnt. you could also say that the person is really faraway so he doesnt hear "noise" he hears a "sound" so for sound yes and for noise no

Zydrate
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There has been a thread exactly like that once, I don't see the necessity to come back to this again..


Moderately new to the community, sorry about that.
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isn't this just spam? And the entire point is that, like Schrobdingers cat, you don't know because obviously if it is observed it is there but considering the entire point is when it is not observed does it make a sound you can only know through observation which means that this is a question you can never answer. That said it is even less likely than god existing so you're almost definitely right.


Best answer in this thread This guys gets it.
Zydrate
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isn't this just spam?


Pardon? Couldn't assume a little good faith here?
bravehawk204
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Ya it fell and made vibrations when it hit the ground so ya.

Programpro
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Ya it fell and made vibrations when it hit the ground so ya.


How do you know?
HahiHa
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How do you know?

Because we know, from earlier observations, and with common sense, that such things do make sounds.
EmperorPalpatine
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Of course it would make a sound. Technically the air still vibrates some no matter how far away you are from it. Your ear just isn't perceptive enough to notice it.
Is there a point to this thread? It doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

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this has turned from a positive answer in the first couple of comments to an argument about :P
There is an incredibly high chance of it making a sound. Of course, from the fact that nobody is around, nobody knows for sure. But the chances are that the tree made a sound.

Jefferysinspiration
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There is an incredibly high chance of it making a sound.


It won't be heard, but it's certain, not "high chance."
rivercrab01
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It won't be heard, but it's certain, not "high chance."

I think there is no way of actually knowing, but it is extremely probable that it did make a sound. There is always a small chance that something might happen to the tree to make it make no sound, but that is incredibly unlikely. I agree that it is almost certain that it will make no sound(and I say almost when I mean incredibly, extremely tiny chance that it will make no sound, but come on, I'm emphasizing that as much as a can now.) but there is, frankly, no way of knowing.
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