ForumsWEPRIf a tree falls in the woods....

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Zydrate
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And no one is around to hear it... Does it make a sound?

The answer is yes, for the love of all that is unholy. Vibrations, wildlife. It still happens.

Stop posting this in chatrooms and forums across the internet. It's an attempt at being 'deep' when it has a really, really easy answer.

That is all.

Ninja away!

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PlasmaMan
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Of course it makes a sound! Why don't you ask the squirrel that had a heart attack because he was in the tree.

HahiHa
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It won't be heard, but it's certain, not "high chance."

Actually... there is a very incredibly teeny tiny chance that, entropically, the tree suddenly dissolves into gases and thus makes no audible sound. Same as when you have two liquids and mix them, there is a very small chance that at one point, the liquids are completely separated again. Of course the chance is so small that it will probably never ever happen.
rivercrab01
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finally, someone who gets it

Xzeno
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Technically the air still vibrates some no matter how far away you are from it.
That is not enough to be a sound. Something must perceive it as sound before it's a sound. While a human isn't required, if nothing, animal or machine, was around to hear it, the tree would not make a sound. Really. Google it.
HahiHa
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That is not enough to be a sound. Something must perceive it as sound before it's a sound. While a human isn't required, if nothing, animal or machine, was around to hear it, the tree would not make a sound. Really. Google it.

Look up my comment on the first page, the fourth. Would you agree to that, that it's a question of definition?
Jefferysinspiration
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there is a very incredibly teeny tiny chance that, entropically, the tree suddenly dissolves into gases


I'm sure a tree dissolving would make a sound - not the sound of a tree falling, but a sound.
rivercrab01
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I'm sure a tree dissolving would make a sound - not the sound of a tree falling, but a sound.

But you do see our point. If something happens to the tree so that it makes no sound, even though the chances of it happening are so tiny it is almost certain it will make a sound, and nobody is around to hear/ not hear it, there is not a 100% chance that it will make a sound. (more like 99.99999999999999999.... you get the picture.)
Jefferysinspiration
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But you do see our point. If something happens to the tree so that it makes no sound, even though the chances of it happening are so tiny it is almost certain it will make a sound, and nobody is around to hear/ not hear it, there is not a 100% chance that it will make a sound. (more like 99.99999999999999999.... you get the picture.)




My argument at the start was:

It obviously makes a sound; it's like asking if a deaf person is alone and speaks out loud do they really make a sound?
Highfire
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If a game developer makes a mistake, and a reviewer is not there to see it, is there still QQ?

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alexstargazer
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The tree will create a sound wave.

However, there must be something (human, animal, or anything else that can hear) there to sense the sound wave and interpret it as sound.

Then the tree will make a sound. Otherwise it is only a sound wave.

EmperorPalpatine
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If I post on AG and then there's an EMP that knocks out power worldwide, did the post matter?

spartandestroyer
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if a man with only 1 arm clapped would anyone notice?

iMogwai
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If I hear any more dumb questions, can I be held responsible if I stab someone?

Zydrate
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Well, this went to hell fast.

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Well, I have a physically possible piece of Earth's matter I just transported on a spaceship into space, the spaceship carries four trees, which, we can say is big enough to call a wood. Now, I put this piece of floating crust out into outer space, where, of course, it has lost it's atmosphere. Then, Using chainsaw, I cut it's bark. Then, Finally, I get into my spacesuit, push the tree, and it falls.

No sound.

It's a stupid question because the answer is obvious, and the only reason it is asked is because it serves to prove the point of some people that say there can be no utter certainty of something happening in the world without firsthand experience/recording/evidence of its existence. A lot like the stupid cat.

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