Obviously my screen name says what I believe but I encourage all ( Buddhist, Atheist, Christians, Taoist, Muslims, etc) to give me a good clear cut answer on if god really does exist. I would sincerely love to know what all of you think. That does not mean I won't argue with your idea or belief.
Lol, you may have to change the Title of this Fourm. God is not reality. That would be real life , now god is not alive , and they have not proven that God is real. There is no Proff . People are just forced into religion.Past many years there has been many religious beleifs but they change ever 100 years are so .. The only resone people say there is a god is because of Jesus. Jesus use to pray to his god and look for answers *suposubly*...But people killed him because they thought he was crazy. Which is not right . Thats no resone to take a life from some one . But if thats what you guys wanna believe then believe it . I'm not saying any thing . lol , im not a religious person...
Every now and again there's a newcomer (or seems to be one to me) that makes a nice speech like yz125 that to me always has this pinch of arrogant humbleness. Not saying it's your fault, yz125, but if you decide to keep discussing on these threads I think you'll see what I mean :P
I'm not religious either, and I have no idea where this conversation has led. I do, however, know where it hasn't led. To the answer of the question - "Can you prove God exists?" And if one of you guys say yes, do so, please.
The only resone people say there is a god is because of Jesus. Jesus use to pray to his god and look for answers *suposubly*...But people killed him because they thought he was crazy.
You said people had to prove religion. Can you prove this happened then?
Your not making any sense. You do or you don't. You choose. Exactly...?
For me it's a don't. My common sense (as in logical standpoint) says there's no need. Also, he has a point, if you believe, then you are believing one of several thousands (tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, etc and w/e) beliefs which very few actually make sense and as such doesn't really matter either way. To those who do wish to believe, though, which one is the right one, and as such does the belief of one constitute a no to the other?
you don't choose to believe something. you just do. second nature. but then you have to think to yourself, are you really the one choosing.. ohhh are you being controlled? wow deep. lol
you don't choose to believe something. you just do. second nature. but then you have to think to yourself, are you really the one choosing.. ohhh are you being controlled? wow deep. lol
That's true though. Belief is not something that's chosen in the same way you choose a car or a flavor of ice cream. Belief is something that is passed on to you, or manifested in you so powerfully that there really is no option to reject it.
That's true though. Belief is not something that's chosen in the same way you choose a car or a flavor of ice cream. Belief is something that is passed on to you, or manifested in you so powerfully that there really is no option to reject it.
you don't choose to believe something. you just do. second nature. but then you have to think to yourself, are you really the one choosing.. ohhh are you being controlled? wow deep. lol
Second nature to believe something that you've been indoctrinated in, maybe. But that isn't natural - that could be equally considered training.
That's true though. Belief is not something that's chosen in the same way you choose a car or a flavor of ice cream.
Actually colors send different messages subliminally and flavor of ice cream is to do with your physical body which... isn't nearly as changeable as your mindset.
Belief is something that is passed on to you, or manifested in you so powerfully that there really is no option to reject it.
One moment please, I'll give you a link to belief and indoctrination because I do have the idea that I'm being messed up :P
Through indoctrination, it does heavily (and unjustly) solidify the belief of people in w/e they were taught so much.
Really all of us are related. If it's "assed on" then all of us would believe, but apparently yall don't.
Well, religion stemmed from a lot of different people from different locations who did not have communicae or knowledge of others existances - from what I know, anyway.
With that in mind, that's why we have Buddhism in Asia, Christianity in the UK and etc.
The reason I don't think there really is no option to reject it is right to say for most people is because Science was low, centuries ago, and to say the universe wasn't earth-centric or that the earth isn't flat would be blasphemy. Oh, and you'd die, from what I know.
It's to the point where we can openly and confidently discuss this topic as people who don't know, are against or are for religion - and it's allowed.
Really all of us are related. If it's "assed on" then all of us would believe, but apparently yall don't.
I once believed but stopped after I could no longer cognitively support such concepts. As we are exposed to different stimuli belief will become varied.
everyone is entitled to their believes, so there is no one correct believe, they are all correct to everybody else. your theory is wrong to someone else who's theory is rong to you, afterlife, heaven, etc whatever you believe in, will only happen if you genuinley believe that it will.
for instance a 'christian' who only sais he is a christain because he want's to go to heaven is not likely to be as he thinks will happen in his mind.
everyone is entitled to their believes, so there is no one correct believe, they are all correct to everybody else.
While this is true that everyone is entitled to their belief, not all beliefs are equal. There are true and justified beliefs, false but justified beliefs, true but unjustified beliefs and false and unjustified beliefs. Some forms of beliefs will hodl more weight than others.
your theory is wrong to someone else who's theory is rong to you, afterlife, heaven, etc whatever you believe in, will only happen if you genuinley believe that it will.
Reality isn't dictated by belief. Just because a child might genuinely believe there is a monster under his bed doesn't make it actually there. Also theories in a scientific sense is based on objectively verifiable evidence. So in that case what one believes or doesn't, holds no baring to the theory's validity.
everyone is entitled to their believes, so there is no one correct believe, they are all correct to everybody else. your theory is wrong to someone else who's theory is rong to you, afterlife, heaven, etc whatever you believe in, will only happen if you genuinley believe that it will.
for instance a 'christian' who only sais he is a christain because he want's to go to heaven is not likely to be as he thinks will happen in his mind.
Like MageGreyWolf said, there are false and unjustified beliefs and the notions of a God creating mankind and the world as we know is simply...absurd. The basis that many religious peoples (especially Christians) use on their surmise is on the basis of faith, not evidence or anything that even hints at his existence.
You have created the concept of God in order to explain the unexplained in the early days of man...before science, before logic, before humanity finally gave itself a chance to crawl out of its superstitious dogmas...
Care to explain just one absolutely irrefutable concrete proof of a God's existence? Or will you continue to dabble on things such as "well, this theory is..." or "reality is subjective..."
My question: What do athiests believe created the world? What is their faith?
Well not all atheist belive the same thing. To be atheist means you don't belive in a deity. So one atheist might be buddist, another voodo, another maybe beliving in nothing.
