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DarthNerd
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So, in the bible, it talks (in at least one instance that i can remember) about a man being possessed by a demon. In modern society, people go to cathlioc(im sorry, i cant spell) churchs claiming their possessed/a friend takes them there/a priest comeing to their house to exorcise them(one again, cant spell). I believe "true believes" cannot be possessed by demons, as the holy spirit within them drives that out. I want to know what everyone else thinks about the topic, like for instance, what people that arnt christian think is wrong with those people, and such. Please refrain from qouteing this &quotaragraph" to tell me that i said something that isnt completely exact to your standerds, or that im completely missing the point in [insert thing here]. I want to know what you think, not whats wrong with this topic, so please, discuss, or go ahead and tell me all the things i did wrong with makeing this thread so i can go and make sure not to read it. If there is already is a thread similar to this, please post a link, and have a moderator/admin lock this.

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ChillzMaster
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So, chillz, are you looking forward to be thrust into hell so you and the devil can curse god together? Or would "your hell" be going to heaven?


If you pray to God, and are ****ed, Lucifer lets you live out what Hell is to you. If you are loyal to Satan, you are still "****ed", but Satan shall take care of you, those who understand his Plan will reap the rewards. There are two halves of Tartarus, one where those who pray to God get burned if they are ****ed, and one where followers of Satan shall reap the rewards of their dedication to the Dark Lord.

-Chillz
dair5
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So on one side satan understands we are just humans and we make mistakes. But on another if you do you will live out your hell. I don't get this.

ChillzMaster
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So on one side satan understands we are just humans and we make mistakes.


these are those who follow Satan's teachings, and accept Satan as their Lord. They are Saved, ****ed to Hell in the eyes of God, but not tortured for eternity, as Satan cares for those who believe all should be Saved.

But on another if you do you will live out your hell.


Those are the ones who believe in ****ation. If you believe in it, it's real. It's their Hell, and Satan will let them live out their salvation as such, if they believe in Hell as such, they shall have Hell as such.

-Chillz
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If you pray to God, and are ****ed, Lucifer lets you live out what Hell is to you. If you are loyal to Satan, you are still "****ed", but Satan shall take care of you, those who understand his Plan will reap the rewards. There are two halves of Tartarus, one where those who pray to God get burned if they are ****ed, and one where followers of Satan shall reap the rewards of their dedication to the Dark Lord.


What if like myself you don't do either?

If God and Satan turned out to be real I wouldn't at all be surprised if Satan turned out to be the good guy.
ChillzMaster
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What if like myself you don't do either?


heheh, whatever the f*ck you want bro. B^D

-Chillz
MageGrayWolf
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heheh, whatever the f*ck you want bro. B^D


So Hell to you works like the afterlife in that movie 'What Dreams May Come' where you basically make your own reality?

Sorry for this being off topic, but since it's just spouting our opinions there isn't much to talk about there.
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True believes is not the right word here. true believe is a part of what i will be talking about below here:
A devotional or a transcendental person has the holy or the divine spirit or the purest form of spirit that the demons can't destroy it or exorcise it. This is the rule of the game !! You are exactly on the right track.

ChillzMaster
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A devotional or a transcendental person has the holy or the divine spirit or the purest form of spirit that the demons can't destroy it or exorcise it


Bah. Satan's arms extend farther than you'd imagine. God had only one second to him in power, and not by too much a margin.

-Chillz
grimml
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Wait a moment. Satan wants everybody to be saved. BUT he doesn't save everybody, only the ones who follow him. So actually he's like God, not any better. Or did I miss something?

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The thing that dosen't make sense about your satanist view is that Satan created the fiasco that became known as sin. If he'd never reminded them about the tree, none of that would've happened. Consider it like a family, Father is God, Satan is 12-year-old son, humans (Adam and Eve) are 6-year-old twins. Father tells the twins, "DON'T TAKE COOKIES OUT OF THE COOKIE JAR!!!" Twins say "Okay." Pop leaves the room. 12-year-old son tells twins "Take a cookie, pop's being greedy and saving that delicious sugary goodness for himself!" Girl twin takes a cookie, takes a bite, gives the rest to boy twin. Older son leaves the room. Pop walks in angry when he sees the kids with crumbs all over themselves and asks if they took a cookie, they say yes and say that the older son told them to. Pop takes away all their privileges. Older son walks in and says "they're just kids, they don't know any better". Pop takes away all of the older son's privileges for being a bad influence and tells them all that they can't have their privileges back until he comes back from a week-long business trip.

ChillzMaster
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If he'd never reminded them about the tree, none of that would've happened


It says from the bible that the Snake was just another creature God created.

Older son walks in and says "they're just kids, they don't know any better". Pop takes away all of the older son's privileges for being a bad influence


Maybe not in that direct order, and replace privileges with sending him to rule the garbage dump of the Divine World, and you have a general picture. Also make that 12 year old brother an Uncle.

-Chillz
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Therefore, I do believe in demons. It is my belief that they can, in fact, shape-shift, possess, move through objects, etc., and near-instantaneously travel.

That sounds like a lot of fun, you know, breaking the laws of physics and stuff. How do I become a demon?
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Satan created the fiasco that became known as sin. If he'd never reminded them about the tree,

And who put that delicious, good looking tree beside Adam and Eve for no good reason? God did! So god created sin. Satan just used sin. (Well he doesn't sin much in the bible, but still.)
MageGrayWolf
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The thing that dosen't make sense about your satanist view is that Satan created the fiasco that became known as sin. If he'd never reminded them about the tree, none of that would've happened.


The snake wasn't Satan.

As you can see here it clearly indicates the serpent in the garden was just an animal.

Genesis 3:1(NIV)
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"

There are two references to Satan being "that old serpent" In Revelations (12:9 20:2) however it doesn't specifically say that it was in reference to the snake in Genesis.

Since God created the snake as indicated and us fro that matter doesn't that mean he holds at least some responsibility for the actions of those creations?
grimml
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Probably you just oversaw it, but I'd really like to hear you answer, Chillz. I said:

Wait a moment. Satan wants everybody to be saved. BUT he doesn't save everybody, only the ones who follow him. So actually he's like God, not any better. Or did I miss something?


And these are your posts I'm reffering to:
Satan believed that the ****ed should not be, that all mortals should be Saved, reason being similar to why many people respond to children's antics as "Oh, they're just kids". Satan had that mindset, that "They're just mortals, they don't know any better, all should be Saved"

If you pray to God, and are ****ed, Lucifer lets you live out what Hell is to you. If you are loyal to Satan, you are still "****ed", but Satan shall take care of you, those who understand his Plan will reap the rewards. There are two halves of Tartarus, one where those who pray to God get burned if they are ****ed, and one where followers of Satan shall reap the rewards of their dedication to the Dark Lord.
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