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cendari
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so just to answer any questions anyone has or challanges i will try to answer any that i can and know i can answer (please nothing stupid)

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QWhy is God allowed to kill people, but murder is a sin for everyone else? A: God does not kill us, because of adam and eve's sin at eden we have sin, so death and pain was made

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Think sacrifice itself. When you sacrifice something, you give up something for a gain somewhere else. Christ gave up His life so that we may live forever. His loss became our gain. His Blood was spilled, innocent it was, and now it covers all of our sins.


But he didn't actually lose anything. A few days later he came back. How did someone sacrificing something make up for someone else's wrong doings? Let's say we caught a mass murderer, but instead of having him go to jail and serve a life sentence or be put to death some innocent by standard volunteered to do it in his place. Would we really regard that as fair?

1 Q:why did God need to sacrifice his son, A: God is a God of order, we may never know why he does it that certain way, because are knowledge is limited while his is limitless and all knowing


My knowledge isn't so limited to tell when something is unnecessarily cruel.


5. no, it really isnt about the believing (because the devil believes) its more about its more about realizing we are sinners and accepting his gift because he wants us to live eternity with him


Wouldn't this be better accomplished if he showed himself instead of requiring we all go on faith?

Why should we apologize for being human?

If it's not about belief then why is not believing regarded as the only unforgivable sin?
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QWhy is God allowed to kill people, but murder is a sin for everyone else? A: God does not kill us, because of adam and eve's sin at eden we have sin, so death and pain was made


If we go by the Bible God has a death toll in the millions at least.
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i myself do not know enough about calvinism so if your really wanting to get more into that here's a linkhttp://www.bibletruths.net/archives/BTAR097.htm

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Here's a compiled list of the total number of people specifically mentioned that God has killed and an estimated number for when it doesn't specify.

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html

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1 Q:why did God need to sacrifice his son, A: God is a God of order, we may never know why he does it that certain way, because are knowledge is limited while his is limitless and all knowing


It's just weird that an all powerful God who can do anything would sacrifice his son to fix a problem that wouldn't require a sacrifice.

3. Q: If God has control over the Earth, then why does he allow people to tarnish his name? A: because out of love he gave us freewill because what is a gift not earned/given


Because God allows people to tarnish his name, he is allowing people to be turned away from him. I understand the free will part, but must people suffer because they were turned away from God?

5. no, it really isnt about the believing (because the devil believes) its more about its more about realizing we are sinners and accepting his gift because he wants us to live eternity with him


QWhy is God allowed to kill people, but murder is a sin for everyone else? A: God does not kill us, because of adam and eve's sin at eden we have sin, so death and pain was made


The bible tells us that God created a flood for the sole purpose of destroying sinners. The Kingdom of Solom was wiped out by God's wrath. Moses, who spent a great portion of his life freeing God's people, brought down the 10 commandments, and spoke to God in person, was denied passage to the promised land merely because he hit a rock twice and "doubted" God for a split moment.

5. no, it really isnt about the believing (because the devil believes) its more about its more about realizing we are sinners and accepting his gift because he wants us to live eternity with him


This does not answer the question presented in the scenario that I described. There is no hard evidence of God's existence. All we have are stories written by other men. If there was hard evidence of God's existence, then we wouldn't need "faith", however, we must have "faith" in God's existence because there isn't any evidence that he really does exist.

Basically, I'm asking why it's a sin to be skeptical of God's existence, when God never even gave us any reason to believe in him. Again, he did give us the bible, but we have so many holy books that it's absolutely absurd to expect someone to pick the bible specifically, and it's absurd to expect us to believe the bible when there are so many other false prophets who walked this earth.

If God is all understanding, then he should surely understand why people doubt his existence.
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Just a quick tidbit, the only reference to another Diety in the Bible other than God, Satan, or Jesus, is Hades. The Bible tells of Jesus striking Hades into the lava of Tartarus, doing away with the old, evil, and corrupt, apparently.

And now for something completely different.

God does not want us to burn in hell


Then why did he send Jesus down to rid Hell of Hades and claim it as his own? And if he wants something, he's GOD! Can't he just Save everybody if he doesn't want them to go to Hell?

if you had a son and that son ran away and went starting doing bad things wouldnt you want that son to come back and be good,


What I'm getting from you is that if, literally, the World's Greatest Man, comes around, stops Communism, makes the Jews and Arabs friends, solves world hunger, end poverty, and sends us to Mars, just doesn't believe in God, he will not be saved? Just because he's not "coming home"?

again, HAIL SATAN.

-Chillz
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@MageGrayWolf because when Jesus was on the cross he took the sin of the world and acted like a scapegoat and that murderer is not the son of God and we cannot forgive sins supernaturally


it is not cruel beceause Jesus was perfect and he knew all along what would happen, it was cruel of us to go and forsake are creator and slap him in the face with are sins

yes it would be easier but God wants true believer (thats atleast what i think) sorry if im a little vague on that one thats a hard question

what do you mean by "Why should we apologize for being human?" we should apologize because its not how God originally created us to operate but because satan tempted us we now have to live against God in sin

that is true God does have death toll in the millions, because of the flood he made but he did that because again we were not operating in the way he wanted and got angry and destroyed people exept for 1 family being noah's family who was blameless before God and they re-created people in a better way then pre flood people (and again i apologize for maybe not answering that in the best way) (notice that all of the people and times that websited mentioned were all evil people and if you read more of the stories before those things happen then it makes sense like him helping King david and the Israelite's kill the invaders)

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@chillz i dont know what bible your reading but God says hes the only God and by hades do you mean satan? because theres not mention of Hades

and yes i am saying that the bible says the only way to heaven is through jesus christ

(find me the book/verse that talks about jesus going to hell and riding hades and all that crap)

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that is true God does have death toll in the millions, because of the flood he made but he did that because again we were not operating in the way he wanted and got angry and destroyed people exept for 1 family being noah's family who was blameless before God and they re-created people in a better way then pre flood people


So... we don't have free will after all?
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yes we do have free will for one God said he'd never do it again and for another its not like God was forcing them to do anything but this was old testament (aka before when there were a lot more laws for God) and no one was following anything it was like a global red light district God can do what he wants with us because he created us and by free will i ment free will to follow him

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alright im done answering questions if anyone has any Answers/Questions feel free to post but i will not be answering maybe someone else

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find me the book/verse that talks about jesus going to hell and riding hades and all that crap


Here It's called the Harrowing of Hell, when Jesus died, he descended into Hades to bring all those under Pluto's reign to Heaven to be Saved. He then dismissed Pluto to Hell's Fires.

before when there were a lot more laws for God


You mean until the Romans got a hold of the Bible, added in a bunch of rules to better rule their gigantic empire, which led to widespread fear of this God? Bah.

Hail Satan, again. =_=* this is getting old.

-Chillz
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Again, he did give us the bible, but we have so many holy books that it's absolutely absurd to expect someone to pick the bible specifically, and it's absurd to expect us to believe the bible when there are so many other false prophets who walked this earth.


To add one more absurdity to that, it's absurd to believe it at face value when it's so full of contradictions.

@chillz i dont know what bible your reading but God says hes the only God and by hades do you mean satan? because theres not mention of Hades


There were also references to Baal who was also worshiped.

@MageGrayWolf because when Jesus was on the cross he took the sin of the world and acted like a scapegoat and that murderer is not the son of God and we cannot forgive sins supernaturally


Scapegoat 1: a goat upon whose head are symbolically placed the sins of the people after which he is sent into the wilderness in the biblical ceremony for Yom Kippur

So Jesus being killed didn't actually do anything, it was just a symbolic gesture? Sounds rather pointless.

it is not cruel beceause Jesus was perfect and he knew all along what would happen, it was cruel of us to go and forsake are creator and slap him in the face with are sins


We must have different ideas of cruel because last I looked getting brutally before being nailed to a cross so you can slowly and painfully die was considered cruel, regardless if you knew and excepted that it was coming or not.

what do you mean by "Why should we apologize for being human?" we should apologize because its not how God originally created us to operate but because satan tempted us we now have to live against God in sin


Much of what the Bible regards as sin is simply human nature and can even be regarded as beneficial and even necessary at times. Even the first sin with Adam and Eve can be at least in part attributed to curiosity, and very natural tendency of ours.

God does not kill us,

that is true God does have death toll in the millions,


Glad we can expect consistency from you.
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I have a question, what qualifies you to answer these questions?


Devil if I know what this guy knows, but it is fun to poke around at him, watching him squirm. Like an ant under a magnifying glass!

-Chillz
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