I don't think McCain's running. Y'know the popular vote in '08 between the two was about 50/50?
According to Wiki, the popular vote count was 69,456,897 to 59,934,814. Add those and you get 129,391,711. Divide 59,934,814/129,391,711. McCain got 46.3% of the votes. That's a very marginal difference, considering that half of the population didn't vote.
The media made it seem like a landslide during the election, which it was in the electoral votes.
Thanks for the acknoledgement, if thats how you spell it.
Acknowledgement, and that's not the word for what you were trying to say. With the definition, you're saying "Thank's for giving me appreciation." But that's way off topic.
As far as the media making it sound like a landslide...realistically, that's a pretty hefty difference in terms of how elections generally go.
You're absolutely right, though, in mentioning that half the election didn't vote. It's absolutely ridiculous to think that somewhere aroudn 25%-30% AT MOST of the voting population actually elects the President. /fail.
Acknowledgement, and that's not the word for what you were trying to say. With the definition, you're saying "Thank's for giving me appreciation." But that's way off topic.
hooray for digressions.
I'm sure if mccain ran again, he would have a better shot seeing as how we saw that obama was a bit of a spineless compromiser.
I'm sure if mccain ran again, he would have a better shot seeing as how we saw that obama was a bit of a spineless compromiser.
Hoo boy. I'm not sure this topic should go down this road, buttttt.....
"Spineless compromiser"?
Seriously?
Look, I'm much more liberal than Obama's policies are, so I'd love to see things done on a more firm basis than they were, too, but to say that he was spineless isn't the whole story, either.
I mean, he did manage to repeal DADT, pass Student Loan reform, pass some form of Wall Street reform, pass the first steps on what will hopefully be an overhaul of health care policy, eliminate a bunch of Al'Qaeda operatives, and have the debt ceiling extended.
Like I posted in the other thread,obama was born in kenya. do you want an african president? and besides,I happen to think macain is good,for several reasons.
It's not that anything's wrong with people from other countries/continents, but they'll likely have strong ties to the old land, which is why the rule of Natural Born Citizen was established. If Kenya goes to war with any other nation, which side do you think Obama will support?
It's not that anything's wrong with people from other countries/continents, but they'll likely have strong ties to the old land, which is why the rule of Natural Born Citizen was established. If Kenya goes to war with any other nation, which side do you think Obama will support?
I know that, but the way Frisko phrased the question sounded incredibly racist.
If Kenya goes to war with any other nation, which side do you think Obama will support?
Even if there are indirect policies that a president with foreign ties would be obligated to, and even the suspicious agreement with said quote, you are treading on thin ice, Frisko. Let's not post anything else that would be walking near a T&C infringement, even if you did not feel the post was.
But he gave out his birth certificate on the internet. He proved he was born in Hawaii.
thankyou!
You know he won't nessicarily halp Kenya no matter what. If I was president I would think carefully about what I do. My country would be very important. And I wouldn't rush to D.R for whatever reason because I have a close tie to it. I need to think about what's best for as many people as possible.
I mean, he did manage to repeal DADT, pass Student Loan reform, pass some form of Wall Street reform, pass the first steps on what will hopefully be an overhaul of health care policy, eliminate a bunch of Al'Qaeda operatives, and have the debt ceiling extended.
This is a general comment and I don't mean to pick on you in particular. It's just a good example.
You do know how the American government works, right? Obama is not the king of America. He doesn't pass laws. Congress passes laws. Congress repeals laws. Congress's purpose is to create policy, the president's (and the rest of the branch) to uphold it. The reason I mention it is twofold:
1) It's intellectually dishonest. It allows you to paint an overly simplistic picture of both the historical and contemporary. It gives credit where none is due, blame where it does not belong, and robs those responsible for events of their voice.
2) In acting on the assumption that the president is responsible for everything, you actually empower the executive branch. The president is much more powerful today than he was historically, and not questioning that rise to power invites more. In fact, his current treatment by the populous and the media will indubitably grant him MORE power in the future. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy and it is anti-democratic.
Moving on: A degree of skepticism is philosophically healthy. Questioning -- not denying, but questioning -- your beliefs is as valuable as questioning those of others. Without that skepticism, you fall into the sort of dogmatism that gets people to believe Obama is amazing and wonderful regardless of actions. Honestly, in the case of politics, I advise a degree of cynicism.
Is Obama a spineless compromise? Without a doubt. Does he pander to the interests of big money instead of the people? Most certainly. Is he less liberal than we might want him to be? Uh, he's American. American politicians who are popular enough to be in the running for president are conservatives. Both parties are socially conservative and economically liberal. That's how America is right now. The democrats are more socially liberal and economically conservative, but both parties fall into the "right wing" in a more globalized continuum.
So quick review: The president is not king. The president is a jerk. Dogmatism will destroy the greatest intellect. Don't look at the god that has happened and ignore the bad (Obama is not our savior). Don't look at the bad and ignore the good (Bush was not pure evil). Don't commit the fallacy of causal oversimplification (neither man was king).
