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ldslarson
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Do you think that China Will ever attack the USA?

I think that they will they are already Cyber attacking us.

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Masterforger
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The moon is worthless as a colony and Mars needs an atmosphere, same as the moon does. Humans won't be kept in some glass dome.

Also, Palpatine, good on thee for getting the numbers. As for Cjohnson, get real data before you start spouting gunk like that. America's military is almost the same size as China's, not too much smaller, considering the amounts.

EmperorPalpatine
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America's military is almost the same size as China's, not too much smaller, considering the amounts.

Those are only the amounts if their currently active militaries were the only ones in play. I'm sure more would join during a large war.

China's fit for military service: 618,588,627

US's fit for military service: 120,022,084
nichodemus
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Oh ****, my post messed up.

In all honesty, China is a COMMUNIST country. It would've been no different than if the USSR invaded, the most powerful countries on the world (save one) invade the one we exempted from just before.

Even Russia would probably get in on the war because they hate China more than anyone else! (Maoist Communism and Stalinist Communism did not mix.


because mao wasn't only communism. and stalin was 100% communism.
anyway both of them are for a while already and things have changed


Just saying, neither Mao nor Stalin achieved Communism, i.e Marxism, instead twisting it to suit their needs.

Also, China pretty much isn't Communist. Why? They run a capitalist economy, with huge government intervention, but nonetheless still Capitalist. Also, a Communist country aims at the establishment of a classless and stateless communist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production.

Tell me, is China classless? Stateless? No.

china maybe an economic powerhouse, but it has its limitaions, it refuses to fight taliban and other terrorists in afghanistan, saying it doesn't want any new hassles and added burden on state treasury, and they will attack US? hardy likely, they will just become bullies, who will talk loud.


Just because the Taliban is not their fight and they refuse to send in troops does not mean they're bullies or wimps. Let us make it clear that China itself is battling their own local Islamic terrorist movement in Xinjiang.

Given the complex web of relations in this globalised world, a decision to go to war would be disastrous if both parties are so interlinked and connected via trade, relations, millions of expats living on both sides etc etc. The USA relies on China's huge manufacturing industry and China relies on the American consumers to snap up its goods. I would hardly think both sides would want to risk a war and end up destroying their own economies.

China does not need to flex its military muscles to dominate the globe, if it intends to be the world's strongest superpower, it can in the long run, and not just by hard means.

Let us also think of any issue between China and America that has to be solved by war and cannot be solved by diplomacy/agreements/mediations. Any? Answer, no, it would take something extremely drastic to spark a war.


PS: Numbers just don't cut it in today's battlefields. A man can kill millions at the press of a button without setting eyes on any of his victims.
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wow, I could barely even skim through what the last 2 posts said.

I believe that china won't risk attacking the U.S. there is too much at stake for now. if they lost, The U.S. debt would be gone, and china would lose it's super power economy that it worked so hard for. besides, that economy of theirs would fall apart as soon as oil is all used up. it's only a matter of time until they fail. If the U.S. loses, then china will become the most lpowerful country ever and can basically run a manufacturing monoploy (mexico, vietnam, etc. move over). chances really point to them losing anyway.

nichodemus
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wow, I could barely even skim through what the last 2 posts said.

I believe that china won't risk attacking the U.S. there is too much at stake for now. if they lost, The U.S. debt would be gone, and china would lose it's super power economy that it worked so hard for. besides, that economy of theirs would fall apart as soon as oil is all used up. it's only a matter of time until they fail. If the U.S. loses, then china will become the most lpowerful country ever and can basically run a manufacturing monoploy (mexico, vietnam, etc. move over). chances really point to them losing anyway.


Haha, read my second corrected one.
CJohnson81
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http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-countries-with-largest-armies-map.html

Felt like making up numbers?


Lets also keep in mind that anyone can change Wikipedia. With that being said, hey Emperor***g*t... check that out buddy
deathbewithyou
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besides, that economy of theirs would fall apart as soon as oil is all used up.

So far it will be 600 years until we use up all that oil. By that time we will have come up with new technology where we dont need oil anymore.
EmperorPalpatine
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Lets also keep in mind that anyone can change Wikipedia.


Fine. From CIA World Factbook:

US's fit for military service
males age 16-49: 60,620,143
females age 16-49: 59,401,941 (2010 est.)
Total: 120,022,084

China's fit for military service
males age 16-49: 318,265,016
females age 16-49: 300,323,611 (2010 est.)
Total: 618,588,627

Oh look! It's exactly the same as what Wiki said above!
nichodemus
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So far it will be 600 years until we use up all that oil. By that time we will have come up with new technology where we dont need oil anymore.


600 years my friend? Have you actually checked it up?


Fine. From CIA World Factbook:

US's fit for military service
males age 16-49: 60,620,143
females age 16-49: 59,401,941 (2010 est.)
Total: 120,022,084

China's fit for military service
males age 16-49: 318,265,016
females age 16-49: 300,323,611 (2010 est.)
Total: 618,588,627

Oh look! It's exactly the same as what Wiki said above!


Let us make a clarification again. Numbers win not a war.
EmperorPalpatine
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Let us make a clarification again. Numbers win not a war.

Oh I know it's about technology advances and all that. He was just refusing to listen to Wiki because it's publicly changeable.
Masterforger
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If anything on Wiki is wrong, it's changed. It's no place for trouble makers, because everyone who contributes to it is practically a Moderator, in the sense they can delete things and change them. So the numbers are generally correct, unless you happened to walk in right after someone got up to a bit of mischief.

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