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After listening to a few of the suggested songs here, it sounds like it takes 0 effort to make a dubstep song. By the sound of it, it's just next generation techno.
dubstep = dumb.stop. (just my perception...If you are one of those tasteless freaks who likes it then by all means, hide in your closet and kill your eardrums)
Mage, your comment doesn't actually make sense if you think about it. How can anything take zero effort? And what on earth is "next generation techno"? This bears very little resemblance to techno for a start.
Anyway I somewhat agree with the thrust of the sentiment (at least my interpretation of it). The way I see it, this is because the majority of Dubstep has now settled on a formula: same beat, same treble section followed by a drop, and a set repertoire of wubs. And a heavy preponderance of sampling and attack delay. As much as anybody is actually contributing anything new now in the world of Dubstep is actually what goes on outside of it: putting the wub into other genres, just as the harsh tones of electro-house are starting to proliferate into that endless mainstream flood of same-ness. And that's why I like Skrillex: he rarely produces Dubstep, instead just doing really whatever the heck he wants with elements of it and not really taking genres seriously. On the flip side of the coin, it could be advantageous for Dubstep to shrink into a single mold because it'd provide a template for everything else that might incorporate elements of it to identify against, relegating those who profess to be "true Dubstep fans" fiercely defending their definition as rigidly myopic and obsessive as fans of any other specific genre.
And so the circle of life in popular music goes on.
Zero effort as in no real work was put into making it. It would be like if I took a pencil and just randomly scribbled on a piece of paper and called it a drawing.
And what on earth is "next generation techno"? This bears very little resemblance to techno for a start.
Well I listened to three of the suggested songs here and every one of them involved being heavy synthesized with lots of random electronic noises. I'm pretty sure that's techno in a nut shell and this is basically a generation after techno.
Zero effort as in no real work was put into making it.
It may sound this way, but I assure you, it takes some work i.e. cut, paste, and fiddle with the dials :P Having actually had experience with the tools of their trade, my yardstick is based on whether the whole is greater than the sum of parts.
this is basically a generation after techno.
Techno's a big subclass of electronic music, alongside house, hardcore, breakbeat, jungle, trance... they all have their own generations and crossover points, and that's why I don't understand the comment. Unless you happened to be using "techno" in the "all electronic music that seems to go doof doof" sense, which most people who don't spend half their life arguing about which brand of doof doof they like tend to do :P
What I'm having trouble with is: where DID dubstep actually come from? The tempo is completely different, and the reason it's so attention-grabbing is because before 2010 it was the only place you could hear that ridiculously stupid wub wubbing on a regular basis.
Unless you happened to be using "techno" in the "all electronic music that seems to go doof doof" sense, which most people who don't spend half their life arguing about which brand of doof doof they like tend to do :P
Yeah that's basically what I mean. For not getting into more detail on it, it's because I'm not a huge fan of such music.
Used to listen to dupstep before it got all mainstream. Stopped listening to it because it just got so burned out and overrated. But still listen to it every now and then, my fave dub producers and: Flux Pavillion, Doctor P, Datsik, Zeds Dead,and Knife Party
What I'm having trouble with is: where DID dubstep actually come from? The tempo is completely different, and the reason it's so attention-grabbing is because before 2010 it was the only place you could hear that ridiculously stupid wub wubbing on a regular basis.
Well it started as a sub-genre of garage in the 90's if im not mistaken and just basically gained popularity.
I for one think that alot of todays dupstep "fans" just simply think that dubstep is a simple wub wub with alot of bass, but its actually more than that, dont get me wrong alot of people do that, and I for one am only a fan of the more complex (basically more different types of synths, patterns, random noises, creativity,etc.) dupstep. I mean anyone can make a stupid wub wub song and all these teeny boppers will go cop it and what not, but thats so played out and its just not creative. imo
Yeah that's basically what I mean. For not getting into more detail on it, it's because I'm not a huge fan of such music.
Then for your purposes, I'd assert that (as Dave's comment infers) it was touted as the "new generation techno" for a year but now the sounds are entering the mainstream the great schism that affects all genre fads is in full effect. Electro house continues to rule the roost though I see more "rogressive house" (whatever the hell that means) ruling the Beatport charts.
I for one think that alot of todays dupstep "fans" just simply think that dubstep is a simple wub wub with alot of bass, but its actually more than that, dont get me wrong alot of people do that, and I for one am only a fan of the more complex...
I really like Dubstep. I used to be like "Oh, this isn't REAL music." But then, I realized that music is really just a bunch of noises that sound good to me. Some people can call music noise, and vice versa. So I just started listening to it and I began to like it, and now I LOVE it. I mean I don't care WHAT they make it with, it just sounds good to me.
Skrillex, Deadmau5, FLux Pavillion, Bassnectar, etc. I don't really dislike anyone's stuff.
I typically listen to it when I need to get pumped up to run in 35 degree cold, or when I need to jolt some life into my brain after studying chemistry for five hours straight.
Flux Pavillion, Doctor P, Deadmau5, Bassnectar, Rusko, and Freestylers, Belle Humble are my personal favorites.
Though as Moon said, I just listen to what sounds good.