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LegendaryRedriders
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I got bored and decided to look some stuff up, and i found out a lot of controversial stuff. Apparently, men are forced to pay child's care no matter what. What I'm wondering is why? If a man wants to keep a baby no women has ever been forced to pay child's care. Whats the difference? And if a women self injects herself with a man's sperm, e.g used condom, why is he forced to pay child's care? If you don't believe me look up Man Receives Oral Sex, Ordered to Pay Child Support. What do you think?

1. Should women be forced to pay child's care if a men decides to keep the baby?

2. Should Men be forced to pay child's care if a woman uses his sperm without his consent to impregnate herself.

3. Why can a woman walk away scotch free (money wise) from a child but a man can't?

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d_dude
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1. Yes they should. It doesn't really matter what gender you are, you are still the child's parent, and you should help take care of him/her.

2. ....How/Why would a woman collect and keep a man's sperm for later use??? Anyways, I can't really answer this question, too confused by it.

3. Because the world is unfair. Women should have to pay. Their child, their responsibility.

dair5
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1. If the woman left and the man stays, then yes.

2. No. I wonder how you'll find out the truth though. Lie detector?

3. I think a lot of things depend on this one but... I think they get away with things like this (In SOME occasions) because of the way society is brought up. I have a friend who says he would never hit a girl. And I tell I think that is stupid everytime he says it. Women are our equal right? Then they should be treated as our equals. Nothing more, nothing less. Equal.

Bladerunner679
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1.yes, but the thousands of women who has left the family for selfish reasons might object to that futilly.

2.no, but there is no real way to know if the child is his unless she admits it. if she does, I'm pretty sure some lawyer will be able to help him on the legal proceedings.

3. I think a lot of things depend on this one but... I think they get away with things like this (In SOME occasions) because of the way society is brought up. I have a friend who says he would never hit a girl. And I tell I think that is stupid everytime he says it. Women are our equal right? Then they should be treated as our equals. Nothing more, nothing less. Equal.


3. unfortunately, equal is never truly equal. look at the workplace.
"women want to be treated as equals, yeah right! you want to be treated as women in the workplace and paid as equals, because whenever you are treated as equals, you send us to sensitivity training!"-carlos mencia

unfortunately, society won't treat men and women the same simply because they are not the same. maybe when a man gives birth to something that will change (and no, I don't want to hear anything about the lady who gave birth and got a sex change, he doesn't count! if you are wondering what I just said, google &quotregnant man&quot.
MagicMonke9897
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Men have to pay child support because the government said so. Simple as that.

partydevil
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Men have to pay child support because the government said so. Simple as that.

what happend to same rights for men and women?
Bladerunner679
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what happend to same rights for men and women?


did you seriously not look at what I said devil? I told you men and women aren't the same so the rights are different for both sides. read it and you will understand.
dair5
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did you seriously not look at what I said devil? I told you men and women aren't the same so the rights are different for both sides. read it and you will understand.


I don't really think it matters whether they're the same or not. People with dark skin are different from people with white skin. But they are both people, shouldn't they be treated equally?
Bladerunner679
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I don't really think it matters whether they're the same or not. People with dark skin are different from people with white skin. But they are both people, shouldn't they be treated equally?


race is different that gender dair, men can't give birth, and women can't impregnate anyone (lots of other differences as well, but at the moment those are the only ones I can think of/ post on the thread). since gender is different, gender roles also have to be different (though, that is starting to change). since gender roles are different, the advantages and disadvantages of these roles are put in as a set of rights that both have and don't have.
Kasic
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What the OP is arguing, however, is that since both of the parents are involved in this, when either leaves the one who leaves should have to continue to pay child support to the one who is taking care of the child.

Yes, each gender is different, but only in physical aspects. That's why gender roles developed in the first place and that's why we see them in every species. I don't think it's wrong to be treated differently, it's wrong to be treated unfairly.

nichodemus
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1. Should women be forced to pay child's care if a men decides to keep the baby?


I'm assuming **** resulting in pregnancy didn't occur. In that case. Both should pay. You both took the chance, you both know what the consequences would be.

It takes two to tango, so why should any argument about only females being able to get pregnant and men being able to impregnate come in?

2. Should Men be forced to pay child's care if a woman uses his sperm without his consent to impregnate herself.


Are you sure a man would actually need to pay here? I highly doubt such a bizarre occurrence would happen on a frequent basis. Why? A woman can get hold of sperm either through the legal route (sperm banks) by which she can't sue the man for support. Or the illegal route....graphic details of sperm farming should be spared here. I would assume that's a crime? (****?)

Anyway, weigh it up. Why would a woman do so? The financial support goes to the child not her, even if such a crackpot scheme works.

3. Why can a woman walk away scotch free (money wise) from a child but a man can't?


I would think that much of it assumes the age old tradition of men being the breadwinners of a family and women as the home-keepers. This attitude has to change given the way our society works now.

OR

It might be because it was assumed a woman was ***** and got pregnant.

Those are the two scenarios I can think of at the moment.

race is different that gender dair, men can't give birth, and women can't impregnate anyone (lots of other differences as well, but at the moment those are the only ones I can think of/ post on the thread). since gender is different, gender roles also have to be different (though, that is starting to change). since gender roles are different, the advantages and disadvantages of these roles are put in as a set of rights that both have and don't have.


As I indirectly mentioned earlier, it takes two to clap here. Bio lesson 101. So why should they have separate rights on this issue?
Likuris
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I don't know what kind of laws you have there at your place, but here not only man have to pay child support.
By decision of the court and based on the Family Code maintenance here is paid by:
- ex-husband - to ex-wife with a child
- ex-wife - to ex-husband, if by court order the child stayed with him
- children - to their parents who unable to work
- parents - to child

If a woman used man's sperm and a man didn't know about it, also they didn't have notarized agreement, man doesn't have to pay the maintenance.

Kyouzou
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Likuris, Child Support is different from maintenance (read: alimony), maintenance hinges on blame, who ever caused the marriage to end has to pay the alimony, it's almost like war reparations.


Women do have to pay child support though, although from what I know, women tend to gain custody because it is believed that a child needs to have their mother far more then they need to have their father. In this sense, society has a greater number of women who are housewives then men, so I suppose child support occurs due to the perception that women are unable to find suitable income in order to raise the children, and need to receive aid, from the man. It's a very sexist system really.

Likuris
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Likuris, Child Support is different from maintenance (read: alimony), maintenance hinges on blame, who ever caused the marriage to end has to pay the alimony, it's almost like war reparations.


Maybe Child support and Maintanance at your place are two different things, but at my place there's no such difference. Also our gorernment must pay Child support in Ñertain conditions. Just wrote conditions when one side must pay to other side. In divorsed couples everything is obvious, but in not married couples everything is not so simple.
cbreezy623
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I kinda know what you mean if I ever write a book I'm going to include a chapter called equal rights for men.

ScouseWarrior
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Women argued for years about having equal rights with men, but am I hearing them argue about having to pay child support... certainly not

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