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d_dude
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So a few minutes ago Dr. Conrad Murray was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter of Michael Jackson. I personally think he should serve jail time, and he deserves his punishment. What are your opinions of this verdict?

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Bladerunner679
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since it was really a matter of neglect, he should get jail time, but not too much since he wasn't intending to kill him.

xNightwish
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I didn't hear it yet but if it's true I think he deserves the same jail time as a person who killed another man and not a higher sentence because he killed the "King of Pop".

master565
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link to an article

I can't say I'm surprised he killed him, but it wasn't really known if it was manslaughter or homicide. Either way, he's only serving 4 years and possibly losing his medical license.

I didn't hear it yet but if it's true I think he deserves the same jail time as a person who killed another man and not a higher sentence because he killed the "King of Pop".


Do you even understand how the legal system works? Why would they ever even consider giving him more of a sentence?
zakyman
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he's only serving 4 years


Actually, that is the maximum that he faces. At the least, he would face some pretty tough probation, along with a prison sentence.
deathbewithyou
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Four years seems to be short. He is responsible for Jacksons death so he should be sentenced for thirty.

master565
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He is responsible for Jacksons death


How is that relevant to his sentence?
Ernie15
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I think he deserves the same jail time as a person who killed another man and not a higher sentence because he killed the "King of Pop".


So, because Michael Jackson was successful and famous, he deserves to be treated by the legal system as a higher being than if he were just an average joe who nobody had heard of? That's a very capitalist opinion.

Conrad Murray killed a man. It doesn't matter if that man was Michael Jackson or the night janitor at Taco Bell; the sentence should not change depending on how rich and successful the victim was.
zakyman
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He is responsible for Jacksons death so he should be sentenced for thirty.


No, because that sentence is unconstitutional. The sentencing laws are set for up to 4 years in jail, and just because you are responsible for the death of some famous person rather than some shmuck off the street does not impact your sentence. Had he killed YOU, than he would receive the same sentence as if he had accidentally killed Queen Latifa
EmperorPalpatine
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[quote]I think he deserves the same jail time as a person who killed another man and not a higher sentence because he killed the "King of Pop".

So, because Michael Jackson was successful and famous, he deserves to be treated by the legal system as a higher being than if he were just an average joe who nobody had heard of? That's a very capitalist opinion.[/quote]
I think you misinterpreted his post. He was agreeing that there should be no special treatment.
xfirealchemistx
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I didn't hear it yet but if it's true I think he deserves the same jail time as a person who killed another man and not a higher sentence because he killed the "King of Pop".


He was advocating for not giving Murray a harder sentence for killing MJ.
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He was a doctor for an ailing pedo. Kids are safer for this man's bravery. (Strong words I agree. But Michael was a pedo. Period. Period. Can I have young kids sleep over at my house and then pay the parents for it? )

I sidestepped. He shouldn't have any jail time. Michael was sick and had an adverse reaction to the drug administered. Maybe Michael could have admin. the drug to himself and someone wouldn't have to go to jail.
Bottom line: Doctors don't need to fear going to jail for trying to help someone. Obviously he wasn't trying to kill Michael and reacted badly to the situation given at hand. BUT there was a death a person and the doctor DID react poorly. I suppose jail would be the solution? Maybe fines...idk.
I know Michael family wants nothing but revenge and I don't blame them. But nothing will bring Jackson back (thank god for the kids) and his family will always be hurt.

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I sidestepped. He shouldn't have any jail time. Michael was sick and had an adverse reaction to the drug administered. Maybe Michael could have admin. the drug to himself and someone wouldn't have to go to jail.
Bottom line: Doctors don't need to fear going to jail for trying to help someone. Obviously he wasn't trying to kill Michael and reacted badly to the situation given at hand. BUT there was a death a person and the doctor DID react poorly. I suppose jail would be the solution? Maybe fines...idk.
I know Michael family wants nothing but revenge and I don't blame them. But nothing will bring Jackson back (thank god for the kids) and his family will always be hurt.


During the trial, the jury heard how Murray abandoned his practice to work exclusively for Jackson for $150,000 (£93,000) per month; how he ordered gallons of the surgical anaesthetic propofol in response to Jackson's complaints about insomnia as he was preparing for a new world tour; how Murray administered propofol on the morning of Jackson's death; and â" according to the prosecution â" was directly responsible for delivering the final, lethal dose.

Bottom line: Doctors don't need to fear going to jail for trying to help someone. Obviously he wasn't trying to kill Michael and reacted badly to the situation given at hand. BUT there was a death a person and the doctor DID react poorly.


Get your facts straight before trying to glorify someone's actions that resulted in a death. Murray neglected Jackson and allowed him to dose himself, and helped to dose him with a drug he knew was potentially fatal. At the very least he should be charged with neglect.

He was a doctor for an ailing pedo. Kids are safer for this man's bravery.


To say I feel disgusted by your vile words are an understatement.
EmperorPalpatine
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Obviously he wasn't trying to kill Michael

Of course not. Why would you kill someone who planned on giving you 1,800,000/yr?

During the trial, the jury heard how Murray abandoned his practice to work exclusively for Jackson for $150,000 (L93,000) per month

From the article master565 posted earlier:
Jackson planned to pay Murray $150,000 a month for an extended tour in Europe. In the end, the doctor was never paid a penny because Jackson died before signing the contract.

If he was truly doing it for money, he would've been obsessed with keeping MJ alive.
nichodemus
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If he was truly doing it for money, he would've been obsessed with keeping MJ alive.


I copied it off in it's entirety from an article. The main focus was on the propofol administering.
partydevil
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only because the guy was called michael jackson. the public wants some1 to pay for his death. things like that happen prety often in normal hospitals (i'm not saying daily ) but then no1 has to go to jail or any other punishment.

only reason that guy needs to go to jail is because his client was called michael jackson.

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