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WolfKing333
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I recently learned of a pokemon called MissingNo, or missing number. In a way, it is from a whole other universe of the pokemon games, and can only be found in versions Yellow, Red, and Blue.

Q. What is MissingNo?
A. I'm glad you asked! MissingNo is a pokemon that exists outside of the Pokedex. No one has ever caught it, ever. So, nobody knows what type it is. Although, it is possible to see it, and to "battle" it. I say "battle" because, well, that will be explained later.

Q. How/why does it exist?
A. Well, this may take sometime to explain, so bear with me here...
You know how in Lavender Town the Marowak was murdered by Team Rocket, leaving only the Cubone? So the Marowak was the Cubone's mother. Well, observe Marowak. Now think of Kangaskahn(if I spelled that right). They look kinda similar, dont they? Originally Marowak could evolve into Kangaskahn, before the game was released. But the guys at Nintendo cut the idea one month before the game was sold to the public. They edited the evolution out, but there was a problem. MissingNo was somehow created by the cut in evolution.

Q. How do I find MissingNo, and what will it look like?
A. MissingNo appears to be a large jumble of pixels in the game, and it's level appears as 99999999... and so on. It's cry is said to be a combination of every other pokemon's cry. If you use a move on it, or a pokeball for instance, the game will freeze. To find it, follow these steps...

1. Go to Viridian City, talk to the "Old Man" who caught the Weedle at the beginning of the game, the tutorial person. Watch the tutorial. You can only do this step after you beat the Champion. This is a key step, because the creators expected you to never go to him again so late in the game.

2. Fly to Cinnabar Island. Walk towards the gym. Once you get to the coastline, use surf. In the water, you will battle MissingNo.

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nichodemus
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One of the greatest and most popular Easter Eggs/Glitches in the history of computer games. Psychologists have even studied peoples' reactions to Missingno, which I must say, takes things to the extreme and is a testament to how impactful it is.

But personally, no it isn't a conspiracy.

KentyBK
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Hahaha I never thought I'd see the day when the kiddies talk about Missingno and pass if of as some sort of ground breaking discovery. <3

I still think it only got this popular because of the item duplication and the level 170 Mewtwos ;P

Anyways, if you allow me to nerd out for a moment, here's some corrections for those that may not actually know about it:

No one has ever caught it, ever.


Not true. Missingno can be caught just like any other Pokemon in the game.

So, nobody knows what type it is.


Fly/Normal ;P

And yes, I had to look that one up.

Q. How/why does it exist?


Sorry, but no. That entire paragraph is completely made-up speculation. Missingno appears because of a different reason, but I'll get to that.

and it's level appears as 99999999


I wish. >.>

Can you even fight it above level 200 ? I have no idea.

It's cry is said to be a combination of every other pokemon's cry


To quote Bulbapedia:

Missingno.'s cry is the game's equivalent of a "blank" cry: a Nidoranâ's voice with a pitch of 0 and no echo. However, a few Missingno. have different cries, such as a Rhydon's cry.


How would anyone possibly figure this out? I have absolutely no idea.

If you use a move on it, or a pokeball for instance, the game will freeze.


Nope. Fights like any ol' Pokemon. Missingno kinda sucks though. Missingno is perfectly, 100% safe.

You can only do this step after you beat the Champion. This is a key step, because the creators expected you to never go to him again so late in the game.


This can actually done as soon as you can use both Fly and Surf. Beating the Champion has nothing to do with it.

So Kenty, why is Missingno in the game then?


This'll be a bit of a tech-y explanation so bear with me.I'll try and explain without as simple as possible.

See, the thing about the Cinnabar Island shore is that while it's programmed to have random battles happening there, the developers just forgot to define WHICH ONES.

Normally, this isn't a problem because the game will just use the data from the last area you visited before flying to Cinnabar. What this means, is that if you were say, on Victory Road before flying to the island, you'd fight Pokemon from the Victory Road while surfing along the shore, etc. Entering a new area with random battles will overwrite this data.

So what causes Missingno to appear?

This is the where the old man tutorial comes in. To show messages like "OLD MAN threw the poke ball" the game had to replace your character name with OLD MAN while the tutorial plays out. So obviously, the data containing the player's name had to be temporarily stored somewhere else.

Do you see what I'm getting at? Yep, the game stores the player name where the game reads Pokemon Battle data. Again, this wouldn't normally be a problem, because this data is overwritten every time you enter a new area with random battles.

But the data doesn't change when you fly from one town into another...

So yeah, that's basically it. Missingno appears because the player fights against Pokemon based on the variables used to define the player's name.

Because of this, different names can influence both the type and level of Pokemon you fight. What blows my mind is that this is apparently so well researched that there's charts and calculations detailing what symbol combination gets you what. o-0

I won't bore you with the math behind it though, unless people really want me to post it.

One of the greatest and most popular Easter Eggs/Glitches in the history of computer games. Psychologists have even studied peoples' reactions to Missingno, which I must say, takes things to the extreme and is a testament to how impactful it is.


Do you have any links to this? Sounds like an interesting read.
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awww tart beat me to it XP.

for the record i knew he is fly/normal without looking it up. i also knew its a nidorina cry from just listening to it... i didnt think its that difficult to hear... :S

and yes... probably just popular because of duplication. also, lets you to fight strong pokemon and catch safari pokemon more easily.

i only fought him in 2 levels. one was 0 and one was 200 or 120 i think. i think the 120 one was called missingno and the level 0 one was called M with pixels after it but that was ages ago and i cant remember.

and yes. im surprised this glitch is actually still awsome for some younger people. surprised and gladd

KentyBK
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Technically, M is a different glitch than Missingno is, they just appear through the same method. And I think M is actually the harmful one of the two but I'm not sure.

for the record i knew he is fly/normal without looking it up. i also knew its a nidorina cry from just listening to it... i didnt think its that difficult to hear... :S


You clearly know your Pokemon better than I do.

Then again, it's been ages since I last played the old games anyway.
thebluerabbit
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You clearly know your Pokemon better than I do.


lol no i dont

Then again, it's been ages since I last played the old games anyway.


me too

Technically, M is a different glitch than Missingno is, they just appear through the same method. And I think M is actually the harmful one of the two but I'm not sure.


wow.... i didnt know that. i remember catching one of them because i was EXTREMELY bored knowing that it might break my game XD.

i wonder if i got lucky? :S
KentyBK
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From what I read, it seems the only "dangerous part" is the game freezing when you try to withdraw a Level 0 M' from the PC. Don't think it can actually harm your save though.

thebluerabbit
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well... when i caught one of them he just disapeared... i dont think i even got a pokedex entry (might be wrong though...) but i remember he wasnt on my box when i caught him

nichodemus
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Do you have any links to this? Sounds like an interesting read.


It has its own Wiki page.
Yodadude53
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Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FasM9R7cic
I highly doubt it's a conspiracy, just a glitch.

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There is a theory behind why it's in the game.

Cuebones mother's are supposed to die soon after giving birth, and the Cuebone takes the mother's skull and wears it on their head (this was mentioned in Pokemon Red and Blue). If you look at Kangaskhan and Cubone, they are different species but they look very, very similar.

http://images.wikia.com/pokemon/images/a/ae/Cubone_kangaskhan.png

Kangaskhan's are only seen with the mother and child together, so the thinking is, that maybe the plan was that Nintendo had originally had planed to have as a stage of evolution, the mother dying and the child putting on the skull to become cuebone, and that at the last minute, they scraped these ideas and placed the files at a strange point in the game. This would also explain why missingNo evolves into Kangaskhan.

master565
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There is a theory behind why it's in the game.

Cuebones mother's are supposed to die soon after giving birth, and the Cuebone takes the mother's skull and wears it on their head (this was mentioned in Pokemon Red and Blue). If you look at Kangaskhan and Cubone, they are different species but they look very, very similar.

http://images.wikia.com/pokemon/images/a/ae/Cubone_kangaskhan.png

Kangaskhan's are only seen with the mother and child together, so the thinking is, that maybe the plan was that Nintendo had originally had planed to have as a stage of evolution, the mother dying and the child putting on the skull to become cuebone, and that at the last minute, they scraped these ideas and placed the files at a strange point in the game. This would also explain why missingNo evolves into Kangaskhan.

KentyBK
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And said theory has never been confirmed either way, so it's all based on nothing but sprites looking similar.

As for MissingNo (or rather M, it's similar-ish glitchy counterpart) turning into Kangaskhan, that has nothing to do with any of this.

M is not a real Pokemon. So obviously, it has to fill garbage data in, which just happens to read as "when this 'Pokemon' gets to level 0 or higher, evolve into Pokemon index #2.". Now take a guess which Pokemon that is #2.

Also note that both M and Missingno tend to turn into Rhydons (for instance, if you place them into the PC). Rhydon's index? #1.

Want more proof? If you level up a level 127 'M, it evolves into Kangaskhan and then immeadiatly evolves AGAIN into Clefairy. And unless anyone wants to claim Clefairy is ALSO somehow related to this, we can be sure that M and Missingno are unrelated to the theory.

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i remember when i friend of mine found something about it years ago and tried it.
he captured it, and when he tried to use him, the game froze and the save got corrupted. he raged a lot.

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No one has ever caught it, ever. So, nobody knows what type it is.


I caught it, easily. With a single pokeball, can't be that hard.
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I guess when they talk about "nobody ever catching it", they mean the OTHER things roaming that coastline. You know, like the LV150 Haunters that are on the exact same strip of land.

No wonder Cinnabar Island was so far removed from the rest of the mainland. Tanked ghosts, glitches in space-time, and OP'd monsters...

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