Well a lot of people have been telling me evolution is real. They give me the most craziest surreal 'facts'. Has anyone discovered any fish with legs? Any humans with gills or fins? If you put all the pieces of a watch into you're pocket and shake it around for trillions of years, will it ever become a watch? Is there but one possibility? Or if you completely dismantle a chicken and a fish, and put it into a box, shaking it around for trillions of years. Will it ever become a fish with wings? or a chicken with fins? :l
Twould appear that Mac has degenerated into insanity due to our higher level of understanding
Or it's as I thought and he is just trolling. I can be quite hard at times to distinguish someone who really believes in creation over evolution and one who is just using it to get a reaction. I suppose it's possible both are the case.
Not spelling someone's name/username right when it's right in front of you 2-3 times a page just means that they don't think your posts are even worth looking at.
Are you saying he's ignorant or are you just insulting me?
oh i have an actual question, what is the leading (if there is one) theory of Abiogenisis
I'm in favor of the RNA world first model. As for the exact process that occurred in nature, that's still open for debate. There are a number of models of how chemicals could form resulting in life but we aren't sure which is the most likely to have happened. It's a bit like having all the puzzle pieces and where they fit in the puzzle is interchangeable.
Trying to find actual debates in evolution can be quite tricky given all the creationist junk that has to be sifted through on line. But here are questions that might be worth talking about.
This "Cambrian explosion" has always been a huge area of debate. Did this explosion really occur, or is it an artifact of the fossil record and the difficulty of finding fossil single-celled organisms? If the explosion did occur, then we need to re-think the idea of gradualistic change which has been central to evolutionary theory since the modern synthesis in the 50s. More importantly what caused this explosion? increase in oxygen levels? development of bodyplan genes like Hox? the end of "Snowball Earth" caused by global warming? Increased ecological specialisation and the spread into niches by the organisms?
If this doesn't work I guess I could dig up a creationist site we can rip apart.
Basically, what Mage is saying is whether or not such an explosion really to place. Currently, evolution goes at a very slow pace, but during this supposed explosion it would have had to be going much faster. Whether this is because more fossils were preserved from this period, thus making us think that there were more species, or whether some natural event happened which allowed species to evolve faster is what he was getting at.
Masterforger, please don't disrespect the entirety of Christianity. It isn't a wise thing to do. You're generalizing and that is not what smart people do. :P (Also, I'm not defending macfan1. He doesn't stand a chance in this argument at all)
YOUR GOD IS NOT THE CREATOR OF ALL
You can't really prove that he is or isn't, so it's not really a great idea to call Him names. :P
Basically, what Mage is saying is whether or not such an explosion really to place. Currently, evolution goes at a very slow pace, but during this supposed explosion it would have had to be going much faster. Whether this is because more fossils were preserved from this period, thus making us think that there were more species, or whether some natural event happened which allowed species to evolve faster is what he was getting at.
Ah I see. Thanks. I think it could have happened, an exponential growth in the number of species seems possible. Maybe it was a period when many species started to develop, aNd there will be another where they'll rapidly become extinct. We see this in populations of animals on smaller scales, maybe this is the same but larger. Though we would still need specific proof as to why this rapid diversity came about here and didn't continue.
You can't really prove that he is or isn't, so it's not really a great idea to call Him names. :P
Can you? As stated, it might be non-falsifiable, like how you can't disprove that a giant teapot is flying around Earth now, and that makes it a weak argument that people illogically follow.
