The US ambassador to Syria is being sent back due to excessive violence against peaceful protesters. Protests have become so bloody (4000+ unarmed civilians killed) that many members of Bashar Al-Assad's own army have decided to join the rebellion against his regime because they cannot condone the killing of innocents and decided to actively defend them. link.
Simmering for months already. Well, Syria has recently been more open, or even accepted an Arab League deal. My take is that other nations shouldn't step in directly like in the case of Libya. Sanctions and embargoes rather than outright violence.
Apart from the army, which Assad still controls, he has the Shabeeha, and a past record of crushing insurgencies.
other nations shouldn't step in directly like in the case of Libya
it toke 2 months whit libya and when it was started by the usa. europe/navo/un had no plan yet on what to do in libya. and most of europe didn't even want to be involved in it.
both protests have started about the same time. other nations gave syria falls hope by helping libya. i believe that all this would have been ove already if we did not help libya. meaning that less people would have died.
if other nations (read: usa) keeps helping rebels against the governments. then it's just a matter of time befor people in china go's protesting again and then you got a problem.
A invade china like the other countrys and start a war. B leave the chineese alone, showing that you are afraid of china
in the end you can not police the world. and so we (you) shouldn't try to.
it toke 2 months whit libya and when it was started by the usa. europe/navo/un had no plan yet on what to do in libya. and most of europe didn't even want to be involved in it.
But in the end they did, which is the important thing.
befor people in china go's protesting again and then you got a problem.
There was the nascent Jasmine Revolution after Arab Spring. I just don't think the US will actually attempt to crack down on a monolith like China.
A invade china like the other countrys and start a war. B leave the chineese alone, showing that you are afraid of china
C Leave China alone since it's an important trading partner.
and when it was started by the usa. europe/navo/un had no plan yet on what to do in libya. and most of europe didn't even want to be involved in it.
Partydevil I think you should give credit where credit's due. Libya was more of an European war than American. French forces began the military intervention in Libya and were later joined by other coalition forces, including the USA. The UK and France assumed the major roles, the US had only a supporting role in the Libya war.
There was the nascent Jasmine Revolution after Arab Spring.
i know and there are little things like that all the time. but i was more thinking like the 1989 protests. when something like that happens again there.
C Leave China alone since it's an important trading partner.
then your country is indirectly speaking against himself. they say evry in the world needs freedom or something like that. but when it comes to china. they don't need freedom because we (usa) benefits on it.
artydevil I think you should give credit where credit's due. Libya was more of an European war than American. i know =) usa only started it like always.
French forces began the military intervention in Libya and were later joined by other coalition forces, including the USA.
falls, the americans where the 1 bombing the place 1st. and uk and franch joined them 3 hours LATER. only a few countrys in europe wanted to be involved in it and the majority of europe didn't. there was no plan in the table yet when the usa started bombing. because the european ministers were still talking about IF they should get involved. usa started bombing the place and then said "here we created the war, now europe go and fix it. we already got 2 other wars running." then we hunted him down in a few months (instead of 10 year ) and the americans are all like "obama wins again" WTF!! =O
if we (1 or all of the rest of the world) are going to help them. then shouldn't we get more news about it? learn whats going on. where the citys are etc. it seems to me that no1 is going to help them any time soon.
and when we have helped them. and there is stll protests going on other countrys (maybe a 2nd egypt) should we keep helping them? or are we going to draw a line sometime?
then your country is indirectly speaking against himself. they say evry in the world needs freedom or something like that. but when it comes to china. they don't need freedom because we (usa) benefits on it.
Yes in all realities you can say the USA is hypocritical in its actions. But it's also being pragmatic.
I hope the US does not try to intervene with Syria and create another Libya situation. Many do not know that Russia is an allie to Syria. That could get very interesting.
I hope the US does not try to intervene with Syria and create another Libya situation. Many do not know that Russia is an allie to Syria. That could get very interesting.
Yes, however not all Russians are drunk on vodka, and could see that it would be really bad to help this regime stay in power if an international intervention was necessary. It gets to a point where you can only take so many civilian lives intentionally killed by the government before you have to save their lives. A human is a human is a human, no matter what country they are in or what citizenship they hold, and we need to at least provide aid to them.
falls, the americans where the 1 bombing the place 1st. and uk and franch joined them 3 hours LATER. only a few countrys in europe wanted to be involved in it and the majority of europe didn't. there was no plan in the table yet when the usa started bombing. because the european ministers were still talking about IF they should get involved.
Actually France and the UK contributed much more than the USA. When you started the bombardment has no bearing of how much of it was carried out by you in total. In fact it was the UK and France pushing for the no fly zone to be put in place, with Germany and the US resisting such plans. You only joined in once you realised it was inevitable, and thus wanted your post revolution slice of the cake.
Either way, you talk about it as if its something to be proud of. I should think Americans would be glad their government didn't steam in thoughtlessley for once. Apparently not.
