So. . . What do you think? Is AG overrated? I think it is. Quote from a previous post of mine (From the link above).
Because. Just because. "Hey moderator, you forgot to delete that post!" Hey, well guess what? JUST IGNORE IT. "Oh, I'm reporting Cen because _____!" WELL GUESS WHAT? GROW UP YOU BABY "I don't know how to favorite a game" DOES IT REALLY MATTER? "Can you add me as a friend?" NO I CANNOT, YOU FOREVER ALONE PERSON. "Why did you remove me as a friend?" YOU. . . ARE FOREVER ALONE.
I have had way to many people ask me "Why did you remove me from your friends list?" First of all, is AG supposed to be some sort of social networking site? Probably not. Especially when everyone can see them and moderators can delete them. Then, there's people who complain that they can't get enough AP. First of all, does it really matter? AP in reality means close to nothing. Sure, you get armatars. Then people complain that they don't like them. Then they complain that they should have seasonal armatars.
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So. . . This is just my view on the topic. You all are welcome to share your opinions.
I have had way to many people ask me "Why did you remove me from your friends list?" First of all, is AG supposed to be some sort of social networking site? Probably not.
I don't think it's an inherent fault of the site that makes people miffed when you strike them off your friends list. It's the same for most sites, and it's just a reflection of human behaviour (Fear of losing friends) translated to the online arena. So I don't think it's a valid point at all if you're arguing that AG is overrated.
Especially when everyone can see them and moderators can delete them.
Honestly, why bring up the point about mods? They just do they're job, and they happen to get more attention these days because the Forum is getting so small and tighter. As for people rushing to complain, isn't that also the case for most other sites? And even for real life, especially in elementary school where people complain to the teachers for every little thing? Same issue here.
It still doesn't show how AG is overrated, or in other words, how the users of AG fawn too much over the site.
Then, there's people who complain that they can't get enough AP. First of all, does it really matter? AP in reality means close to nothing. Sure, you get armatars. Then people complain that they don't like them. Then they complain that they should have seasonal armatars.
Pack rate syndrome, and an obsession with numbers. Again, a trend you see pretty much everywhere.
Nicho, I think the entire discussion keeps coming down to "AG is not overrated" anyway. As far as I have seen, the things being pointed out is either regular behaviour that has nothing to do with AG, something that is only related to AG by use of it features (which again is the regular behaviour), and lastly pointing out things that might be overrated, but would be overrated everywhere.
Another thing: Yes, mods get authority when they become mods. Yes, people think being a mod is awesome, and the idea of becoming a mod is overrated, but the mods themselves, the job, the position, the authority... Neither of those are overrated in any way. It is just the idea among the people that strive to become a mod. Those people that will never make it as a mod.
So, I think there is little reason to conclude that AG is overrated or further continue the discussion, unless someone can point out something about this site that is actually overrated.
Didn't I. . . do what?
As far as I remember, you did threaten me with reporting me. I believe I told you to go for it.
Indeed, indeed. I just find it really odd that a thread like this could manage to grow to 8 pages, without anyone actually pointing out how AG is overrated in itself. And I kinda just wanted to mention the "mods are not overrated, the idea of being a mod is" again.
I think in the end though, it's all part of your perception and your experience on AG, since overratedness means different things to different people. Furthermore for example, if I spend much of my existence here complaining about and aiming to accrue more and more AP, I would think that others would perceive you as overrating AG. On the flipside, it's rather normal for the AP farmers.
Then again, is that really overrating? I doubt so. Overrating would be when you fawn excessively over the site till your flattery and praise drench with honeyed meaningless phrases, which I don't think many people have done.
Well, there is the whole thing about all the random glitches and quirks that pop up from time to time around the site... That could constitute as something about the actual site not the users... But because the users actually accept the faults and complain about them instead of ignoring them and saying the site is perfect means the site is not overrated.
Definition of OVERRATE
transitive verb : to rate, value, or estimate too highly <overrates his importance to the team>
Examples of OVERRATE
The coach tends to overrate the players on his own team. <I think the critics seriously overrated that movie.
[quote=thaboss]That could constitute as something about the actual site not the users[/quote] Before, when I said the whole "mods are overrated" thing, doesn't that go toward the site? Because AG decided to use moderators. . .
[quote=thaboss][/quote] Haha sorry about that. I was trying out what Schmiddy posted.
[quote=thaboss]to rate, value, or estimate too highly <overrates his importance to the team[/quote] That is a valid definition of 'overrate', but I'm talking about that and about AG having too much little issues.
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Oh by the way I won't be on AG until next Monday (2/6/12), so I won't be able to post in this thread. I already asked Frank to keep watch of this thread, since around pages 4-6 there were some issues and small problems. So if this thread gets locked before I come back, then I would just like to say thanks for the discussion
The site didn't, the administrators did. And seriously, what's so bad about mods? They do so much work in making this site clean and spam free. Just because you're a little tetchy because they don't like you because you annoy them and break the rules doesn't mean you can lash out at them... That just makes it worse. Mods ban people because those people need to learn that what they do is wrong. It's not as if they ban whoever bothered them that day... (possibly.) Someone breaks the rules, a mod warns them, they ignore it, they get tempbanned. They do it again and again or something worse, they get permabanned. (By administrators, but asked to do so by mods. Usually.)
[quote]I believe the whole idea with the moderator thing may be slightly overrated. With the whole ban thing, etc.
So you want Armor Games without mods? Take a look at Kong and see what AG will end up like if there weren't mods. I know Kong has mods, but they are really lax about rules.
just because ur a mod doesn't mean ur like better than others
It doesn't, but who acts like that? They're basically the police of the site. I've never seen any of them proclaim "I'm better 'cause I'ma mod and you're not"[/quote]
What GhostOfMatrix posted really should have summed up "the whole mods are overrated thing"
Whoa... that sounds harsher than thaboss intended... Sorry...
What he means to say is mods help the users. The site with all its glitches cannot be helped. That people will be banned cannot be helped. That people will ask dumb questions cannot be helped. It's how life is. People will be people, i. e. stupid.
[quote=thaboss]And seriously, what's so bad about mods? They do so much work in making this site clean and spam free. Just because you're a little tetchy because they don't like you because you annoy them and break the rules doesn't mean you can lash out at them[/quote] Auh-gain! Something being overrated doesn't necessarily mean it's bad!
[quote=thaboss]What GhostOfMatrix posted really should have summed up "the whole mods are overrated thing"[/quote] When I said the "mods are overrated" thing, that was my opinion, and it was valid since I has information to back it up.
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Bottom line: I don't not like AG. I don't not like mods. Just because I say ArmorGames is overrated doesn't mean I hate the site.
[quote=Patrick2011]@invalid777's Bottom line: You used double negatives, so I will quote a fixed version as follows:[/quote] That's incorrect as well. My feeling toward AG is neutral.
[quote=Patrick2011]More specifically, the previous mods choose the mods, but the admins are the ones that actually use controls to add a mod.[/quote] About that and the part that's quoted above it:
That was just to show that moderators are related to AG, since Frank said that I was saying stuff that was actually about the users being overrated.
