What would you do if Kira became real?

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314d1

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Posted March 5, '12 2:32am UTC

Okay, first thing you need to know is that to comment you definitly have to know who is Kira. I won't explain it, so you must have watched the anime Death Note to know.

So what would you do if Kira becomes real? If a guy has some way to kill every single criminal in the world. Would you be agree with that? Do you like the idea about someone who kills every criminal? Or would you be a anti-Kira?

Excuse my English, it is not my native language.

Never saw the anime myself (To be honest, an anime which mostly has action of writing down names isn't for me...). This way I will use TV tropes as a guide to this.

Light was going to kill everyone who "Didn't contribute to society enough", as well as killing people for something as small as stealing bread to feed their families. Kira was not meant to be the hero in the stories, if that means anything.

I would say a good Kira could do wonders, assassinating dictators mostly, diffusing hostage situations, and the like. But a Kira like Light, obsessed with utopia, would be horrible.

[quote]Okay, first thing you need to know is that to comment you definitly have to know who is Kira. I won't explain it, so you must have watched the anime Death Note to know.\r\n\r\nSo what would you do if Kira becomes real? If a guy has some way to kill every single criminal in the world. Would you be agree with that? Do you like the idea about someone who kills every criminal? Or would you be a anti-Kira?\r\n\r\nExcuse my English, it is not my native language.\r\n[/quote]\r\n\r\nNever saw the anime myself (To be honest, an anime which mostly has action of writing down names isn't for me...). This way I will use TV tropes as a guide to this. \r\n\r\nLight was going to kill everyone who "Didn't contribute to society enough", as well as killing people for something as small as stealing bread to feed their families. Kira was not meant to be the hero in the stories, if that means anything.\r\n\r\nI would say a good Kira could do wonders, assassinating dictators mostly, diffusing hostage situations, and the like. But a Kira like Light, obsessed with utopia, would be horrible.

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dair5

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Posted March 5, '12 2:43am UTC

If Kira was real, that would be awesome. Well, sortof, we'd all live in fear of death from an unknown force. I might join the anti-kira workforce. If I didn't already know what kira could do. We could only hope that kira is an idiot and is nothing like Light. Oh, and get the best detective in the world. Fast.

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Darktroop07

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Posted March 5, '12 3:04am UTC

I would just stay as a bystander and not do any crimes or piss Kira/Light Yaginami off but in my opinion that anime was one of the best ever XD.

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MoonFairy

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Posted March 5, '12 4:53am UTC

I don't know. Kira had good intentions. But, considering Kira would be in Japan, and I'm in the US, I think I'd be fine. I don't know any international criminals, so I wouldn't really hear about it. I would just be apathetic to the whole, thing, to be honest.

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314d1

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Posted March 5, '12 5:01am UTC

I don't know. Kira had good intentions. But, considering Kira would be in Japan, and I'm in the US, I think I'd be fine. I don't know any international criminals, so I wouldn't really hear about it. I would just be apathetic to the whole, thing, to be honest.

The Kira in Japan died. Apparently there is a sequel, the new Kira is in Chicago.

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NoNameC68

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Posted March 5, '12 8:15am UTC

Never saw the anime myself (To be honest, an anime which mostly has action of writing down names isn't for me...).

It's actually not a bad anime. It was very smart at times, but at other times they tried too hard to be smart and it came off as dumb. They actually had a part where two characters eye each other down for hours debating inside their own heads whether they should try to win a tennis match or lose so that the other doesn't become suspicious. To make matters worse, they actually pulled the "what if he suspects that I know? What if he knows that I suspect that he knows? What if he knows that I know that he knows that I know that knows that I know that he knows peanut butter i know that he knows that I suspect him?" They went there. Other than that and a tiny number of other things, it was pretty solid and I was shocked.

That aside, any more talk about the anime can go in it's own thread in the Popular Media section.

Now for a recap so that people have a clear understanding as to what this thread is about.

There's quite a bit that goes on in the anime, but for sake of conversation, all anyone needs to know is that the show revolves around a black book.

When a person writes a person's name, date of death, and cause of death, the person will die in said way. If the person is incapable of performing an action or if it is impossible for them to die in the specified way, that person will have a hear attack instead. If only a name is written, but no cause is written, the person will suffer a heart attack. The person who writes in the book must picture the face of the person whom he wants to kill, otherwise nothing will happen (to prevent people with a similar name from dying).

There are a few other rules, but that's about the jist of it. The guy in the anime decides to that he would play God and kill everyone he thought deserved to die. To show that he means srs bsns, he kills a bunch of prisoners. To remain spoiler free, let's just say that this results in a game of cat and mouse.

The anime basically allows the audience to decide whether someone should have the ability to kill whoever they want, even if they have good intentions. It also raises the question as to whether such a person can be trusted and how far the person will go to keep his ability to kill those whom he believes should die.

Also, I think Kira is the name of the person with the black book, can't remember for sure.

[quote]Never saw the anime myself (To be honest, an anime which mostly has action of writing down names isn't for me...).[/quote]\r\n\r\nIt's actually not a bad anime. It was very smart at times, but at other times they tried too hard to be smart and it came off as dumb. They actually had a part where two characters eye each other down for hours debating inside their own heads whether they should try to win a tennis match or lose so that the other doesn't become suspicious. To make matters worse, they [i]actually[/i] pulled the "what if he suspects that I know? What if he knows that I suspect that he knows? What if he knows that I know that he knows that I know that knows that I know that he knows peanut butter i know that he knows that I suspect him?" They went there. Other than that and a tiny number of other things, it was pretty solid and I was shocked.\r\n\r\nThat aside, any more talk about the anime can go in it's own thread in the Popular Media section.\r\n\r\n[b]Now for a recap so that people have a clear understanding as to what this thread is about.[/b]\r\n\r\nThere's quite a bit that goes on in the anime, but for sake of conversation, all anyone needs to know is that the show revolves around a black book.\r\n\r\nWhen a person writes a person's name, date of death, and cause of death, the person will die in said way. If the person is incapable of performing an action or if it is impossible for them to die in the specified way, that person will have a hear attack instead. If only a name is written, but no cause is written, the person will suffer a heart attack. The person who writes in the book must picture the face of the person whom he wants to kill, otherwise nothing will happen (to prevent people with a similar name from dying).\r\n\r\nThere are a few other rules, but that's about the jist of it. The guy in the anime decides to that he would play God and kill everyone he thought deserved to die. To show that he means srs bsns, he kills a bunch of prisoners. To remain spoiler free, let's just say that this results in a game of cat and mouse.\r\n\r\nThe anime basically allows the audience to decide whether someone should have the ability to kill whoever they want, even if they have good intentions. It also raises the question as to whether such a person can be trusted and how far the person will go to keep his ability to kill those whom he believes should die.\r\n\r\nAlso, I think Kira is the name of the person with the black book, can't remember for sure.

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jaza_m

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Posted March 5, '12 10:37am UTC

I agreed with what Kira was setting out to do, but not the way he did it, which just so happens to be the only way. But that has nothing to do with the question now does it?

Honestly I'd live my life the way I do now. In Kiras eyes I'd be pre chill, and in fact I reckon me and Light would get along pre well. We could go out for drinks once and a while, get wasted and play a few pranks on some of the tools down at the bar (Misa would be there ofc). "See that ******r there hitten on yo misses man? Write down that he drops his pants and dies from shoving that bott---"

Forgot this is a flash games site. Carry on.

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nichodemus

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Posted March 5, '12 3:49pm UTC

No I wouldn't want that to be real, since capital punishment mos definitely does not apply to all crimes; nor do all countries and people even agree that capital punishment is a suitable punishment in contemporary times. Placing the book and decisions in the hands of just one person is outright foolish, especially when said person isn't even versed in the laws of every single country.

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CommanderDude7

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Posted March 5, '12 5:08pm UTC

I feel that the same thing that happened in the anime would happen in real life. Kira would keep making judgment over more and more aspects of life embodying what he thought was right. Any who disagree would be placed in the camp of evil and probably killed. I just dont think that this kind of power should ever be given to humans. The potential for harm is so immense it is almost unfathomable. Also time to find a mask and destroy my past if Kira is real.

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partydevil

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Posted March 5, '12 6:18pm UTC

i would hope that kira doesn't find my files. but luckly he lives in japan so he isn't able to see.
however i would secretly hope that L is going to find him very fast.

anyway "death note" ... it's 1 of the very few anime that i realy love.
and it's soooo much beter then the movie's. realy a must watch anime. a awsome story.

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partydevil

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Posted March 5, '12 6:22pm UTC

i would hope that kira doesn't find my files. but luckly he lives in japan so he isn't able to see.
however i would secretly hope that L is going to find him very fast.

anyway "death note" ... it's 1 of the very few anime that i realy love.
and it's soooo much beter then the movie's. realy a must watch anime. a awsome story.

The Kira in Japan died. Apparently there is a sequel, the new Kira is in Chicago.

kira dies?
you mean L dies right?
however when L died the most fun of the serie was over. the 2 guys that come in the place of L just doesn't do it.
the battle kira vs L is what makes the anime so great.

but if they have replaced both kira and L. well then it isn't death note anymore for me.

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Avorne

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Posted March 5, '12 8:20pm UTC

It depends...

If someone else was Kira, then I'd keep my head down and let him go on with killing criminals, Light himself was a ruthless killer towards the middle and end of the series - killing anyone that even dared to question the authority of Kira as 'God of the new world'.

If I was Kira then I'd do all of the same things that Light did, except I'd figure out when to call it quits, and try not to get caught so easily.

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princevladlin

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Posted March 6, '12 3:20am UTC

I, for one, have actually seen the anime.

What would I do? Well, I would avoid criminal activities and strive to be a productive member of society, so that I wouldn't be killed. That of course is assuming that I would want to live in a such a world.

As for Light's view of justice, I personally don't agree with it. I have no firm beliefs in "right" or "wrong" in the first place. But it really doesn't matter what the truth is. Those with the power can force their belief system on you whether you agree with it or not.

I greatly enjoyed the anime, and it was one of my favorites, but I think its greatest flaw is that it essentially it condemns Light's beliefs and paints him as a victim of the death note. L and others often talk about him having a very childish view of justice. I know a lot of authors assert their beliefs through their stories by having a character sharing those beliefs prevail, but I don't really like that, especially when it's so strong.

So I liked both sides of the fight, particularly Light, but I didn't resonate with either of their beliefs systems. The ending and the series as a whole to me felt pretty pointless goal wise, because imo there really is no clear winner and I didn't sympathize with the cause of either party. Of course it's obvious who wins in the end, but it took way too long and said person won for very pitiful reasons. It feels kind of wrong to me when the best doesn't win.

Moving on to Light's beliefs about justice. I don't really care if one person has the power to decide who lives or dies. "Who are you to decide who lives or who dies?" Well who is the government to decide that? "We give them consent." I'm sure the criminals don't, and a lot of governments do not serve the interests of the people.

But as for whether all criminals should be killed and whether it should depend on the degree of the crime,,,,
It really depends on what the goal is. To create a &quoterfect" society (in this context, one without crime where everybody works together for the common good, blablabla), I believe that one would actually have to make people want to be "good" and agree on things. Light's utopia is ofc based on fear of death really. And if people don't fear death, then said society is screwed. If Light has to kill everyone, then it is no longer a society is it? Of course most people would probably fear death so that's not really an issue.

I think it's a noble idea to take it on upon yourself to rid the world of criminals, but not very well thought through. And yes I agree maybe to a certain extent it might be beneficial. I mean who cares if the heartless criminal dies as long as you're not him? Well apparently some people. ANYWAY.

And that is the end of my rambling.

I, for one, have actually seen the anime. \r\n\r\nWhat would I do? Well, I would avoid criminal activities and strive to be a productive member of society, so that I wouldn't be killed. That of course is assuming that I would want to live in a such a world.\r\n\r\nAs for Light's view of justice, I personally don't agree with it. I have no firm beliefs in "right" or "wrong" in the first place. But it really doesn't matter what the truth is. Those with the power can force their belief system on you whether you agree with it or not.\r\n\r\nI greatly enjoyed the anime, and it was one of my favorites, but I think its greatest flaw is that it essentially it condemns Light's beliefs and paints him as a victim of the death note. L and others often talk about him having a very childish view of justice. I know a lot of authors assert their beliefs through their stories by having a character sharing those beliefs prevail, but I don't really like that, especially when it's so strong. \r\n\r\nSo I liked both sides of the fight, particularly Light, but I didn't resonate with either of their beliefs systems. The ending and the series as a whole to me felt pretty pointless goal wise, because imo there really is no clear winner and I didn't sympathize with the cause of either party. Of course it's obvious who wins in the end, but it took way too long and said person won for very pitiful reasons. It feels kind of wrong to me when the best doesn't win.\r\n\r\nMoving on to Light's beliefs about justice. I don't really care if one person has the power to decide who lives or dies. "Who are you to decide who lives or who dies?" Well who is the government to decide that? "We give them consent." I'm sure the criminals don't, and a lot of governments do not serve the interests of the people. \r\n\r\nBut as for whether all criminals should be killed and whether it should depend on the degree of the crime,,,, \r\nIt really depends on what the goal is. To create a "perfect" society (in this context, one without crime where everybody works together for the common good, blablabla), I believe that one would actually have to make people [i]want[/i] to be "good" and agree on things. Light's utopia is ofc based on fear of death really. And if people don't fear death, then said society is screwed. If Light has to kill everyone, then it is no longer a society is it? Of course most people would probably fear death so that's not really an issue. \r\n\r\nI think it's a noble idea to take it on upon yourself to rid the world of criminals, but not very well thought through. And yes I agree maybe to a certain extent it might be beneficial. I mean who cares if the heartless criminal dies as long as you're not him? Well apparently some people. ANYWAY.\r\n\r\nAnd that is the end of my rambling.

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MoonFairy

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Posted March 6, '12 5:43am UTC

If he was in Chicago, I still wouldn't have a problem with him.

The only debate this miiiiiiight turn into, would be is it right or wrong to kill a criminal, etc. Like what if the criminal was a changed man, yadda yadda, so on and so forth. Other than that, the foreseeable future of this thread will be about how awesome Death Note is.

But that's just my opinion, of course.

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Gameboy98

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Posted March 16, '12 4:11pm UTC

Well, I would send an anonymous message to Kira via Kira's Kingdom and tell him, "You have good intentions. You want a world of peace. But the way you attempt it is evil. It is the reason why everyone wants to find you. There are criminals in jail that have families, accidentally did their crime, not their fault whatsoever, and could even have been framed. And for the real criminals, you are making thousands suffer more than they deserve. Also, you are putting the innocent people in fear. Fear of death. And think how many you have killed to prevent you from finding you. They wanted what they thought was right. They wanted to prevent a world where people are punished beyond their sentence, where people live in fear of losing their loved ones in prison. So go on with killing to make peace Mr. Irony, do what you have to, but keep this letter in mind."

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