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thepunisher93
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article states that Taliban attacked on various locations in Afghanistan and killed 11 soldiers bearing 39 causalities of their own (Ofcourse official figures of both sides cannot be trusted as each side will exaggerate opponent causalities we will have to wait for Taliban figures and then an approximate figure b/w both extremes can be found)
In my opinion it is beginning of the end in Afghanistan and there will be more attacks coming. What is your opinion?

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314d1
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those 30 were overall causalities of civilians dammit!
in 3 or 4 attacks


Three and four attacks with only 39 attackers fatally wounded and 42 military casualties. When the casualties of your civilians are almost as much as your casualties to the fighting men, then something happened to make the civilians wounded. And it wasn't the helicopter that was only at one attack.

what ive seen you write is all defending usa and that the usa only does good.
that is compleet bull****.


I have not said a thing about my country this entire time. This force had little U.S involvement and was mostly the Afghan security forces fighting. All that NATO did was send in the helicopter, which didn't do much.

see that video. thats normal day-to-day how it go's.


U.S fires into civilians every day?

Lets say that is true. Then why would people still go outside? Would you go outside if their was a legitimate chance you would be gunned down by a copter? And wouldn't that eliminate a good percent of the population? And wouldn't we have lost the war already?

I still don't see how it is relevant to this attack.

it's kinda the same as shooting every1 american dead because he has a gun. thats the only reason the usa soldiers need to kill people.


Because they have a gun? I think you may be intoxicated right now. I can't understand what you are trying to say.

and thats supposed to be good?


Shooting down people who are bombing places, killing civilians, and murdering their own governmental troops? Yes. That is usually a good thing.

hell no, you sucky americans are just as bad as the taliban.


How so? We try to keep terrorist, who may I remind you have injured thirty civilians in just this attack, fight in open streets, and attack the police and military, from killing all the people they do, and we are somehow worse?

That is like saying a man is as bad as a rapist he tried to stop.

killing just as many innocents. atleast the taliban say they kill innocents but the usa always try to cover it. wich doesn't change the fact that they also kill innocent people.


We are hardly killing as many innocents as the Taliban. The video you saw was a group of random soldiers who where likely punished after the video.

The biggest difference is that the U.S doesn't want to kill civilians, and would prefer to keep them alive. It isn't like our precedent and generals order "Look at that group of people walking innocently! This must be swiftly dealt with. Quickly, open fire!". It is a random rouge soldier who decided to open fire. The Taliban, on the other hand, really doesn't care and does often order the death of innocents. "Look at those people working innocently around these random buildings. Run and their and blow it up!"

And how in hell does this have anything to do with this attack? America had nothing to do with it.

that's exactly what i am trying to say that All the causalities can't be blamed on Taliban


That wasn't what he was saying...

And why not? The Taliban decided to bring destructive, explosive weaponry into a civilian location. Since they decided to attack a civilian location, it is easily said that all the blame for the deaths is their fault, even if all of the deaths where somehow caused by helicopter strafing. Which would make no since.
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I still don't see how it is relevant to this attack.


as i said it's not about that.

for the rest. believe your propaganda. obvius i can't show you.

It isn't like our precedent and generals order "Look at that group of people walking innocently! This must be swiftly dealt with. Quickly, open fire!".

but when the group has a gun whit them then they all have to die for it.
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as i said it's not about that.

for the rest. believe your propaganda. obvius i can't show you.


Then what is it about? What propaganda?

but when the group has a gun whit them then they all have to die for it.


It looks like one guy said there was shooting in the area, said that they where all armed, so the copter fired on them. So wouldn't just be the fault of one guy? If your saying that there is one bad guy in the military, you are probably correct, otherwise I don't see your point. And I don't see what this has to do with the attack in Afghanistan.
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It looks like one guy said there was shooting in the area, said that they where all armed, so the copter fired on them. So wouldn't just be the fault of one guy? If your saying that there is one bad guy in the military, you are probably correct, otherwise I don't see your point. And I don't see what this has to do with the attack in Afghanistan.

Simply put
"All civilian causalities can not be blamed on Taliban and neither can they be blamed on any other party."
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Simply put
"All civilian causalities can not be blamed on Taliban and neither can they be blamed on any other party."


Why not?
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Why not?

Why so?
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Why so?


Because people died of unnatural causes during the fighting. Why can't their deaths be placed on the Taliban, who attacked the city?
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Because people died of unnatural causes during the fighting. Why can't their deaths be placed on the Taliban, who attacked the city?

And why can't these be placed on NATO who invaded in the first place?
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And why can't these be placed on NATO who invaded in the first place?


Why would it be? The NATO had only provided training and the helicopter for the attack. If they had a beef with NATO, then why would they take it out on random embassies?
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Why would it be? The NATO had only provided training and the helicopter for the attack. If they had a beef with NATO, then why would they take it out on random embassies?

|Not random embassies but on embassies of NATO countries
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|Not random embassies but on embassies of NATO countries


Like the Afghanistan parliament? And pretty much the rest of Wazir Akbar KhÄn and the rest of Kabul? And every other front? Jalalabad?

And since when is an embassy a target for war?
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Like the Afghanistan parliament? And pretty much the rest of Wazir Akbar Kh�n and the rest of Kabul? And every other front? Jalalabad?

And since when is an embassy a target for war?

since weddings have been a target of war.
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since weddings have been a target of war.


And when did that start?
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And when did that start?

Right from the beginning of the war
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Right from the beginning of the war


Link or it didn't happen.
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