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Freon
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im just opening this topic so that people can have a NICE, FREINDLY place to talk about their beliefs, i Myself believe in evolutionism

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Eric_Cartman
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Evoulution all the way bro!, BTW Creationism and Evolution iare somewhat different, creation explains everything, evolution only explains the diversity of life, not how it bagan.

Blockhead
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God created the man and to thank him, the man created God.

MsterXantos
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@ Blockhead ditto that one

Drace
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I'll give evolution having a chance of being the possible creator of us.

Its only a POSSIBILITY, but guess what, there are many possibilities, 99.99999999999% have not come to our heads.

I hate it when people state it as a fact.
Nothing is truly fact.

And Plus...you cant prove gravity even existed 5 billion years ago Rofl.

And remember...they said the Earth was flat for 1300 years?

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Shepherd

We can never know for sure. My question is why would this God make our planet filled with pain and war? If he did create the universe, why does he make us go through sadness? It just seems odd to me that so many people worship him when he makes life for many people, terrible. Now you tell me that we make the choices and he doesn't. Okay, but according to you, he created us which means he created our brains to make the choices.

Evolution just makes more sense to me. I do believe there could be a greater force but it has more facts backing it up. Creation just has the bible. I don't really think it matters how we started. We should worry about what we will do in the future.

Drace
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Why does God have to be watching us.
Why is God always viewed as a supreme good for all guy?

God can be a nerd on the computer that created us. Just like we create SIMS games..

Maybe God is what you guys think...but there is a guy next to him that gave him the powers and forbidden him to take away the pain and bla bla...
Why would such a thing happen? NO freakin idea, but is a possibilityI


I, along with Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, think that the world may possibly be the best it could be.

http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl201/modules/Philosophers/Leibniz/leibniz.html
(I had this idea before i even knew about him)

Your saying why is there pain? Maybe we need pain.
There was an African kid who had something wrong with him and he couldnt feel pain.

One day he burned his foot in the fire not knowing what it would do to him. He was saved...

The other day he cut his foot and he had no idea...
they saved him..i think?

And he had something wrong with him another day and he ended up dying.

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Shepherd

Your saying why is there pain? Maybe we need pain.


You don't even understand what pain I was talking about. I mean mentally. Why do we have war and have soldiers killed? That causes pain to the family. Why can't we all just get along if God is so nice?
Drace
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Yes, i know that but see if we need our normal pain, maybe we need it mentally to?

And refer to my previous posts...there on page 44 for "Why cant God be nice"

TotalReview
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Yes, i know that but see if we need our normal pain, maybe we need it mentally to?


You don't get my point. Why wouldn't God create the perfect world for us if we are his "children"?
Drace
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God is not a magician, he is a carpenter.
Maybe it is not possible...
The brain is complex and its not magic either.
You cant make it think an apple is red, and the at the same time make it think its orange.

See getting along with each other might cross with other things in our brains that make it not possible.

Read this page:

http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl201/modules/Philosophers/Leibniz/leibniz.html

TotalReview
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Shepherd

Drace, when are you ever going to get my point? If God created the universe, why wouldn't everything be perfect? That means no bad things, no confusion, and no hate. Don't reply saying, "Oh, maybe we need those things." No, God could have made it where we don't need those things if he wanted to.

Drace
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You don't understand me AT ALL.

You are thinking to narrow minded. Go up a few notches.

Read the dam page for godes sakes.

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You don't understand me AT ALL.

You are thinking to narrow minded. Go up a few notches.

Read the dam page for godes sakes.


I understand what you are trying to say. You are basically saying if we lived in this perfect world, it would not be right. You say we need pain and evil to function right.

Now, my point is why wouldn't God make this fantasy world where we all just lived happily? Maybe it isn't right but it would prevent stuff that saddens us. Okay, so if he made the world, why isn't it perfect?
Drace
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It would be dull. God could of all just put super small humans in a room and made their brains think they were just happy all the time...ehh.

Really its too confusing of a question unless you know the nature of God. We no nothing out of our universe.

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It would be dull but would anyone complain about their perfect life? I know I wouldn't. This is why I follow evolution.

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