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Freon
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im just opening this topic so that people can have a NICE, FREINDLY place to talk about their beliefs, i Myself believe in evolutionism

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WeeMan147
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Nomad

Okay, so if he made the world, why isn't it perfect?


I want that question answered, too. If this superior being designed everything, how come so many people do things that go against his "commands"? Doesn't make sense.
Drace
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"Leibniz sought to solve the problem of evil by showing that the existing world is consistent with an omnipotent and perfectly benevolent God. He did so in two ways:

1) Leibniz points out that an omnipotent God will be concerned with creating an actual world, not an imaginary one. The actual world is governed by physical and mathematical laws. Those laws set boundaries as to what is possible and what is not, within the world system that we have. This is not to say that God is subject to or limited by those laws, only that this created world is so subject. To picture a world that violated those laws would be to project an imaginary world. So, when someone throws a rock from a bridge causing a tragic accident, we lament that as an evil. God, being all-powerful, could suspend the law of gravity and prevent the accident. But to do so would be to create a different world than this one - one in which the law of gravity did not always apply. Leibniz described the world as an infinite nexus (network) of interacting parts and principles. If God were to undo any of those parts, the existing world would no longer be. Thus to project upon God the motive to prevent evil is to appeal to an imaginary world, not the actual one. This actual, existing world works as it does because it is the best possible arrangement of parts. Our world is the best possible world."

Drace
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Really I say anything is possible, but I defend the existence of God from stupid arguments.

TotalReview
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I want that question answered, too. If this superior being designed everything, how come so many people do things that go against his "commands"? Doesn't make sense.


Very good point. Why wouldn't he just make sure everyone followed his commands? Maybe he likes seeing us fight like it is a game. I don't really believe in God but he would probably come off strong if he was a person.
Drace
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"I want that question answered, too. If this superior being designed everything, how come so many people do things that go against his "commands"? Doesn't make sense."

Not that I'm Christian...

but how would he make our brains follow his commands all the time?

He would have to implant a function that said "Do not kill"
but that would just make the world loony. You would not be able to protect yourself from evil.

"Though shall not lie"

If your never to lie...ehh...
You will give me any answer I ask you. Crazy...loony world.

Estel
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Well time for me to come in! God does not control us because he gave us Free Will. It is on OUR accounts why the world is what it is today. If he controlled us, why are there people that don't follow him?

Now those laws of God's aren't going to be followed 100% since free will is in us. If you break one commandment, you aren't going to hell, but anyway, how does this have to do with creationism and evolution?

Drace
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Any why is it that if you do not believe in a God for this reason...then you automatically settle for the theory of evolution.

So narrow minded!!

Estel
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Now HOLD ON! Just because you are a follower of God, doesn't automatically make you a follower of creationism. i, myself, am a follower of God, but I believe in BOTH, creationism and evolution.

Drace
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Ahh yes Estel good for you...but I was talking about Total

TotalReview
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Any why is it that if you do not believe in a God for this reason...then you automatically settle for the theory of evolution.


I'd rather believe in something. Evolution is the only other option so far compared to creation. I have already said that it doesn't matter how we started out. It is so stupid how we are arguing over something that really, doesn't matter.

So narrow minded!!


You are the one that is narrow minded. I have just wondered why God didn't make a perfect world and you automatically thought you were right. Also, outside this thread, you are the biggest asshole I have ever seen.
Drace
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I have just wondered why God didn't make a perfect world and you automatically thought you were right.


I did not. Lol.


Also, outside this thread, you are the biggest ******* I have ever seen.


Lol makes me smile for you to say that.
Although I shouldn't laugh at your misfortunes...
TotalReview
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Lol makes me smile for you to say that.
Although I shouldn't laugh at your misfortunes...


Oh yeah, I am so unfortunate that I am not a friend of a racist and homophobe. Unlucky me. You are never going to listen to suggestions so it is pointless fighting with you. I am done. If that makes you feel you have won, hahahahahaha.
Drace
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LOl...

Even after I post this on Estels profile you say that!?

ol, hi total.

You are taking me down?

ROFL. Narrow minded fool. Learn to empower yourself. Challenge others to empower yourself so you can debate with the Big boys.

Winning an argument simply for a win is pathetic.

Learn from arguments and take a greater perspective. dont be so narrow minded!


As I explained there is no winning or losing an argument. It is to empower yourself!

I was actually hoping you'd stay...or even better someone else to join in.

Haha.
Drace
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If a someone gay can be gay, then I can choose to be who I am.

You dont decide which is ok or not.
Pathetic fool! LEARN!!!

Instead of wanting to hear of an idea that will make you smarter, you call me a racist, ignorant fool. HAH!
You should of asked me WHY.

TotalReview
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If a someone gay can be gay, then I can choose to be who I am.


There are things you can choose to make yourself. Sexuality is not one of them.

You dont decide which is ok or not.
Pathetic fool! LEARN!!!


What? I have been saying that you don't choose for the longest time. Estel and I actually told you that it was hormones so why are you calling me a pathetic fool?

Instead of wanting to hear of an idea that will make you smarter, you call me a racist, ignorant fool. HAH!
You should of asked me WHY.


I know I came off strong at first about creation vs. evolution. I was calling you racist and a homophobe from the other thread. Why do you think you are the smartest person here? You seriously think that I should follow everything you say.
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