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im just opening this topic so that people can have a NICE, FREINDLY place to talk about their beliefs, i Myself believe in evolutionism
once again, I still say evolution is an answer to how the lord made us instead of why he doesn't exist. i say this because christian doctrine states that god can do miracles, but still operates under natural law. also, evolution has lots of evidence to back it up. put the two together and it makes a bit more sense than us appearing out of thin air.
put the two together and it makes a bit more sense than us appearing out of thin air.
once again, I still say evolution is an answer to how the lord made us instead of why he doesn't exist. i say this because christian doctrine states that god can do miracles, but still operates under natural law. also, evolution has lots of evidence to back it up. put the two together and it makes a bit more sense than us appearing out of thin air.
I think what he's saying is that evolution doesn't help to disprove creationism on it's own, as it isn't too hard to sandwich the two together.
That being said, this thread looks more like a 'where did life come from', than it does evolution vs. creationism, because some people might say both.
I'm sorry but creationism is utter crap, you can't merge science and religious doctrines, that just doesn't work. What would work is a deistic viewpoint, that a deity has given the first input, or is somehow still giving some inputs to steer the processes in some directions. I guess this is rather what bladerunner meant.
I think what he's saying is that evolution doesn't help to disprove creationism on it's own, as it isn't too hard to sandwich the two together.
or is somehow still giving some inputs to steer the processes in some directions.
As pointed out earlier we don't see such supernatural agents at work in the process.
Let's go with one example from the first Biblical account. Here we have God creating birds (Genesis 1:20) before he created land animals (Genesis 1:24).
Nor do we fully understand our sudden jump from something-ape like to Humans. That could have been the steering?
As pointed out earlier we don't see such supernatural agents at work in the process.
Nor do we fully understand our sudden jump from something-ape like to Humans. That could have been the steering?
I looked at it. It just keeps saying 'And God said 'x''. That doesn't have to mean it is being stated chronologically, it is just saying what God happened to do on that particular day.
Those two events are occurring on different days. So yes it is stating that chronologically birds came before land animals.
Well, I don't actually own a Bible in my house. But I looked up online and it didn't really differentiate the days so well. Also, it stated he made animals within the sea first. Which, in turn, went onto land and then into the air, so it does in a way correlate with science.
Mage is totally right.
Where did the idea of sea animals going onto land come form?
The only reference this could be taken from is the story of Noahs Ark.
Evolution is obvious but it does not disprove creation but some of the creationists. Some Abrahamic scholars is also mentioning probabilities of it and construe creation as chain convertions. People seem to forget their purpose on this issue long ago. The absolute truth? No need it where we can imbue people with our truth.
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