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Tensions with Iran
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Posted Nov 13, '12 at 8:38am 4,414 posts |
maybe import and export are not the right words.
i'll be happy to get through all that if i get in return that the usa will be gone.
do you live in the year 0 or the year 2012?
simply not true. as we had seen in 2008/9 they are perfectly capable to move their trade away from usa and spread it over the rest of the world.
plz. don't be so stupid....
when people are simply to stupid and unwilling to acknowlets they are wrong. then i do not feel the need for this. it is only a waste of time to get proof for someone who is unwilling to agree they are wrong.
importent yes.
this is i-net, get used to it.
actualy, uganda is fighting the somalian pirates. usa does not dare because they can't do it financially.
by far they are not the only one.
i disagree whit both of you. (your partly true whit the companies part) only showing your muscle will make people hate you. and that is exactly what happend whit the 27 wars usa was part of after ww2. i say japan is superior then usa. solely because they are not power hungry violent maniacs that want to be the "hero" all the time. as the americans are. |
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Posted Nov 13, '12 at 8:39am 1,747 posts |
Oh am I to believe that nation who started av war that affected millions by falsely claiming WMD threat? |
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Posted Nov 13, '12 at 11:05am 795 posts |
no problem, it normal for everybody but americans to care about other human beings.
why should they? they are not stupid enough to go around and waste money on killing people.
why would anyone need their army outside the country.
Go read some books and educate yourself. What am I saying, this was expected from a child. Those your nation killed was nothing but civilians. Your nation killed women and children, the same way you do in the current war. So yes, it was a failure.
You can make as many excuses you want, it doesn't change the fact, that it was a completely failure, both military and political.
10 if not younger.
I wish for the world peace, if that what you are asking, or are you just trying to avoid the statements, because you know it right. |
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Posted Nov 13, '12 at 4:44pm 548 posts |
No worries. I see why it would be confusing, and you're on the right track, but there's a little more to it. See, much of what America buys are products that American companies have manufactured through foreign resources and factories. Essentially, our main export is purchase which comes back in the form of profitable goods, which increases investment capital and allows those companies to pay for the production of more goods. As most American companies don't actually produce their own goods, it stands to reason that we import (or buy) much more than we export (or sell). For example- Apple is one of the largest computer developers in the United States. However, their Macbooks aren't made by factories in Detroit or Pittsburgh. Instead, the pay factories in Taiwan to produce their laptops for much cheaper, with materials bought from Mexico, Canada and Asia. The laptops are then imported into America, where they are sold for profit by Apple, which both allows Apple to continue paying Taiwanese factories for the production of their Laptops, as well as increasing the values of Apple's shares in the stock market--leading to greater investment capital by both nation and foreign citizens or corporations. Again, Apple is essentially exporting ideas and money for the import of physical goods. This of course means that America relies on many foreign companies for the production of our consumer products. However, the flip-side is that those foreign companies rely on American consumerism for their profit. It's an upward spiral of international economic profit (Hence, my great appreciation of the free market).
You don't seem to understand. It's not something that would be easy to recover from. In fact, it might be impossible to revitalize the market should we lose one of the major blocs (whether it's NAFTA or the EU), and a new market would have to be developed all over again. In the meantime, the loss of wealth would be staggering, in the form of extraordinarily high unemployment (much, much higher than Spain's current 50%) and poverty.
Greece? Spain? Ireland? They certainly haven't had an easy time. In fact, if you look at a map of world GDP growth you'll find that the economies of most of the EU and NAFTA have been in decline. And this was just triggered by a housing market crash in America. The only countries that profited or grew were countries either not directly related to the well being of the American economy or counties that could perform cheap labor and services for the rest of the world (which was direly needed), i.e. India and China. And, for some reason Poland. I'm not sure what's going on with Poland.
I thought that was implied in the rest of the paragraph when I stated the EU could do just as good a job as America could. Apologies if that wasn't clear.
Japan actually has a defense force which they plan on increasing the budget for over the next five years. But again, I believe the core of American (and Japanese) influence lies in their market power. Militaries are just necessary for defense.
False. In the past 3,400 years, there have only been an estimated 268 years of peace. America is not unique in that respect.
Specifically starting with the Meiji Restoration until the end of WWII, I think you'll find that the Japanese were incredibly nationalistic and violent. However, Japan has a long, long history of wars between rival shogunates and clans. |
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Posted Nov 13, '12 at 5:48pm 1,747 posts |
British empire had 121 wars (including rebellions) between |
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Posted Nov 13, '12 at 6:12pm 548 posts |
Exactly! The argument that America is an especially violent nation is invalid. |
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Posted Nov 14, '12 at 9:20am 4,414 posts |
even if i bleed dead. it will be worth it.
last time i checked we were talking about china.
a small defence force that most countries can win from.
yes.
usa has more years in war then that years they exist. (due to more wars at the same time)
as i did all the time. i'm talking about now and after ww2.
i'm talking whitout rebbellions. also were the britsh very hated in the past in the colonies they concurred. and were they seen as violent people. just as the africans saw the dutch during the VOC. now if you change your policy and can show for lets say 50 year that you are no longer power hungry killers. then i will be happy to discard that opinion. but it doesn't change that you are power hungry killers today. |
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Posted Nov 14, '12 at 4:25pm 525 posts |
True partydevil, because attacking the nazis was such a cruel act. driving the comumnism and defending democracy {Yes, democracy. In places russia controled there was a dictatorship. in USA controled there is a democracy} was so evil. You take this as grunted partydevil. USA saved the western world and life style *** more then once. As much as i dont like some aspects of USA, I cant deny that. And i didnt got in what japan went better? by the fact they dont go to wars anymore? By the fact they are a somewhat Minor nation in the political world? Its like saying that Lichtenstein is a better country. If USA is down, our beloced western life style and cultur will be gone too. Iran is Threatening that they will destroy Israel. They are Threatening that they will destroy USA. they are Threatening that they will destroy Brittiain. So USA need to sit back and say "but tehy are the under dog! we need to make it even first"? They need to let Afganistan become a Global Terrorism center, because drones are unfair? because the poor taliban just try to save the country froom teh evil USA militia? So yea, USA was in some wars since 1945. And what is that? Vietnam is not a democracy now? Korea is not a big north korea, there is a democratic free south part? There is a democratic bubble in the middle east, and not another curropted Muslim country {i mean come on, Assad, mubarak and the rest of teh gang are not a elected presidents. as much as these countries might be OK, there ruling class is not so innocent}. You Liberals are making me sick sometimes. Everything that is not losing is wrong. USA? wrong. Israel? wrong. |
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Posted Nov 14, '12 at 4:51pm 1,747 posts |
While supporting dictatorships in Pakistan, South Americas and Arabia?
What if I love to live in Iran as it is but america shoves its snout there and installs an america's ***** "democratic" govrnment like Afghanistan or Iraq.
Lasrt time I checked, Israel and USA were threatning to use force.
At cost of ! million causaulities, Vietnam still is a Socialist republic.
Do we really have to go through this again? |
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Posted Nov 14, '12 at 5:03pm 525 posts |
Firstly, didnt recognized you punisher, new amatar. Secondley, yea, USA is not innocent too. Sure, i dont like part of it as much as you do. The greedingness, this crusade like passion of "saving the world". But what can i do? There is democracy in europe now after the soviets felt. there is democracy in asia. what can we say? for there advanted it will sayed that they made the world a batter place. even if not perfect. Is USA, if rommny lose the election, then obama win. In Iran, Hamedinijad win. The other are traitors and terrorists. In USA protesters.. well bad exmple. In Israel, protesters are in the worst case are get arrested {im not talking about the west bank. this situation has to be solved}, while in Iran they will shot you or capture you and turtore you. If a muslim will come visit Israel, well, no one will care. In the worst event, the security guard will demand to search him over and over. In Iran, a jewish man will get arrested for "spying". A religios government is never a good thing. Im against it in Israel. im against it in USA ,adn im against it in Iran. So far, Iran is the one who close night clubs for beign agaisnt the religion, Not any other of these evil evil countries. |




