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Posted Nov 22, '12 at 4:11pm

Kasic

Kasic

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I could've easily been wrong.

Yes, you could have. Just because you weren't doesn't mean anything.

The thing is, you were looking for this. You don't remember all your dreams to begin with, and when you remember a dream that is mundane and has a chance of happening -with the expectation of it's going to happen- if you wait long enough, of course something similar to that will eventually happen.

Now, did you specifically write down beforehand, "My friend (name) came to me in this dream in this location and talked to me about his paycheck, which he had doubled?" because if not, I don't see any further reason to continue talking. Even if you did write something that specific, that's still not nearly enough evidence, especially if you take -every- dream you have, write it down, and watch for it to happen or not because 99.99% of them probably don't even have a chance of actually happening.

 

Posted Nov 22, '12 at 4:30pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

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"My friend (name) came to me in this dream in this location and talked to me about his paycheck, which he had doubled?"

Other than the doubled part, yes. But I was more specific about the location in the room (unusual because I didn't normally sit there) and how he walked up (direction he came from, where he stood).

Yes, you could have. Just because you weren't doesn't mean anything.
The thing is, you were looking for this

The thing is, I was expecting to be wrong. I almost didn't say anything from the fear of foolishly being waaay off.

 

Posted Nov 22, '12 at 9:09pm

partydevil

partydevil

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I'm not going to break into a flooded house in the middle of an estate.

break in, break in... your just going to take a look.

And; what's that?

it's a special effect used mainly by magicians.
but for those who know hpw it works. it can be a very fun thing to fool people in thinking he see ghosts.
you basically need 3 mirrors and 2 light sources to create a sort of 3d image.
and whit a bit more technology you can even make something like this

 

Posted Nov 22, '12 at 9:58pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

4,978 posts

you can even make something like this

Blocked in the US due to copyright. I'd link to the similar Tupac projection, but it contains strong language, so it'd be against the rules. If you want to see it, youtube: tupac hologram.

 

Posted Nov 23, '12 at 3:51am

Kasic

Kasic

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Other than the doubled part, yes. But I was more specific about the location in the room (unusual because I didn't normally sit there) and how he walked up (direction he came from, where he stood).

Could you write for us exactly what you had written down? (Leaving out names of people anyways.)

 

Posted Nov 23, '12 at 9:38am

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

4,978 posts

Sure:
"On the night of November 27, 2011, I had a dream in which I was seated in the commons at the last table (the northwest side) across from the northeast checkout counter, facing southwest. My friend, [name], approached me from the southeast on the other side of the table. He was holding an envelope. He stood in front of me and discussed, at length, what it was about. I was rather disinterested, but I remember that it had something to do with his paycheck. Then I woke up."
All of that happened to happen, which surprised the hell out of me. I was hoping for at least some of that to be wrong, so I could dismiss it as finding something that wasn't there. But it was.

 

Posted Nov 23, '12 at 12:28pm

MageGrayWolf

MageGrayWolf

9,677 posts

Knight

"On the night of November 27, 2011, I had a dream in which I was seated in the commons at the last table (the northwest side) across from the northeast checkout counter, facing southwest. My friend, [name], approached me from the southeast on the other side of the table. He was holding an envelope. He stood in front of me and discussed, at length, what it was about. I was rather disinterested, but I remember that it had something to do with his paycheck. Then I woke up."
All of that happened to happen, which surprised the hell out of me. I was hoping for at least some of that to be wrong, so I could dismiss it as finding something that wasn't there. But it was.

This still sounds like it could just be coincidence to me.

 

Posted Nov 23, '12 at 1:02pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,572 posts

I had a dream in which I was seated in the commons at the last table (the northwest side) across from the northeast checkout counter, facing southwest.

Do you normally sit there? Also, do you have anything else written down that eventually happened?

 

Posted Nov 23, '12 at 1:12pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

4,978 posts

Do you normally sit there?

Nope, usually two rows southwest or two rows northeast in the center.

Also, do you have anything else written down that eventually happened?

A few, and they all happened within a few months of the related dreams, but I didn't usually have many details written down, so they're pretty vague.

 

Posted Nov 28, '12 at 5:20am

BritHennerz

BritHennerz

364 posts

Of course Atheists can believe them, in fact it proves almost that there is no Heaven if some people are trapped on this Earth rather than in Heaven or Hell. It could be argued that ghosts are in Purgatory but if that was the case there would be so many more ghosts around.

I personally don't believe in ghosts but that's not because I'm an atheist, it's because I've never seen one before. I believe that ghosts, if they exist, are caused by a a fluctuation in space and time, hence why many ghosts don't respond to you, rather they act out a section of their life, normally their death.

 
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