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Posted Dec 8, '12 at 11:20pm

partydevil

partydevil

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No father means no role model and no one to be an example. If the person doesn't grow up in a Christian household


i lost my father when i was young. i have never believed in this religion thingy of yours.

Also, without a father, there is need.

need... need for what? everyone has it's needs.
father, no father, working, jobless, sane, insane... every1 has needs

2. sin

my life is full whit sins according to your religion.

If just one of these are there though, there is a good chance of it.

i'm in on all 3 (or 4, because you had to add the religion part)
yet ive never done a crime.
 

Posted Dec 8, '12 at 11:25pm

Aeridani

Aeridani

360 posts

I feel as though most crime comes from three things. 
1. no father
2. sin
3. need
No father means no role model and no one to be an example.  If the person doesn't grow up in a Christian household, than sin is all they know.  Also, without a father, there is need.  No single cause creates crime.  If just one of these are there though, there is a good chance of it.


So you are saying sin is all I know? I haven't grown up in a Christian household, my parents are not Christian. What does following a set of beliefs have anything to do with whether you'll commit a crime or not?

 

Posted Dec 8, '12 at 11:38pm

tegan190

tegan190

807 posts

No father means no role model and no one to be an example. If the person doesn't grow up in a Christian household, than sin is all they know. Also, without a father, there is need. No single cause creates crime. If just one of these are there though, there is a good chance of it.


Are you saying that since I didn't grow up in a christian household, everything that I do is a sin. Well, obviously we do some of the same things. (Eat, drink. breath) but since I don't believe in your religion those are sins?
 

Posted Dec 9, '12 at 2:00am

Masterforger

Masterforger

1,856 posts

I feel as though most crime comes from three things.
1. no father
2. sin
3. need
No father means no role model and no one to be an example. If the person doesn't grow up in a Christian household, than sin is all they know. Also, without a father, there is need. No single cause creates crime. If just one of these are there though, there is a good chance of it.


The father is a helpful figure, but you can draw inspiration from your grandparents, your parents' friends, your relatives, your teachers, anything. Many have lost their fathers, even both their parents. What they do from then on is in their hands.
As for the sin, if I saw someone shoot someone in the head, without provocation, warning, or a batted eyelid, I would consider it wrong. Very wrong. Yet here's the catch: I am not a devoutly religious person.

In fact, your statement is self-destructive, because even with a devout religious family where "Thou shalt not kill" or the equivalent is taught daily, the Crusades, among many other big, bloody wars still broke out. Both sides believed they had a right and the backing of their god to help them. But, I highly doubt that either god was helping considering blood was being spilt over texts that said in bold "Do not kill"

Crime is fully dependent on the person. Some people are violent or at least unstable, and the lack of something or the kindling of anger will set them off. Others may be poor and surrounded by wealth, and are obliged to steal. Some people may be overt hoarders, willing to nick small items without causing much damage, a minor crime.

There is no set list of causes of crime, merely the analysis of a psychologist.
 

Posted Dec 9, '12 at 2:16pm

SwordmasterQ

SwordmasterQ

29 posts

You guys are overthinking it. Crime is not a complicated matter of religion and upbringing. It is simple human nature. Wether you think humans were created from an act of God or evolved, I think we can all agree that in both of those situations, people initially lived in small, family groups. There would be little or no crime there, you can compare small communities with larger ones to prove that. The crime happens when a sh**load of people have to live in close proximity.

 

Posted Dec 9, '12 at 3:03pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,305 posts

Knight

Indeed I heard of an experiment where they put mice in an environment where they have everything they want (not like small families where everyone has to help), and the mice became increasingly psychotic. This could at least be one more factor.

 

Posted Dec 9, '12 at 3:30pm

Jacen96

Jacen96

3,115 posts

I feel as though most crime comes from three things.
1. no father
2. sin
3. need
No father means no role model and no one to be an example. If the person doesn't grow up in a Christian household, than sin is all they know. Also, without a father, there is need. No single cause creates crime. If just one of these are there though, there is a good chance of it.
It is widely believed that having an abusive father can cause children to be abusive as well.

2: Read my previous post about religion in these sorts of debates (page 2 of this thread)

3: need for what, I don't think needing love is going to make me commit crimes.

~~~Darth Caedus
 

Posted Dec 9, '12 at 4:34pm

theEPICgameKING

theEPICgameKING

1,017 posts

Time to use Logic to determine why crime happens.
1: Crime is defined as going against Human Law.
2: Human law is a rule set down by the people in order to further a specific purpose, such as protecting the people, or in some cases, suppressing them (That applies for dictators/Hitlerites).
3: Religion and law interact when the "Good" virtues of religion coincide with laws protecting against "Bad" acts such as murder, theft, etc.
4: People have many different inherent personalities augmented by life experiences.
5: Negative life experiences and/or inherent personalities will cause a person to commit negative acts, whetheras positive experiences and/or personalities will cause someone to commit positive acts.
6: Depending on the nature of the law, different acts, positive OR negative, will go against it.
7: THEREFORE, it is our life experiences combined in some way with our inherent personality that causes us to break the law/commit crime, and different combinations will break different laws depending on the nature of the laws.
The above logic proof is, while vague, Sound, Convincing, and Valid. This thead just got Logic'd. I just coined that, Logic'd. No one steal it!

 

Posted Dec 9, '12 at 4:52pm

partydevil

partydevil

5,130 posts

3: Religion and law interact when the "Good" virtues of religion coincide with laws protecting against "Bad" acts such as murder, theft, etc.

but religion shouldn't be used in any way to create a law.
then your suppressing the freedom of those whit a different believe.
 

Posted Dec 9, '12 at 5:03pm

partydevil

partydevil

5,130 posts

5: Negative life experiences and/or inherent personalities will cause a person to commit negative acts, whetheras positive experiences and/or personalities will cause someone to commit positive acts.


doesn't have to.

just think of the storys where some kid whit rich parents turns into a criminal even tho he had everything he wanted as a kid.
or those people that always have been unlucky and have a hars life. but despite it all, they like to help other people in any way they can.
 
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