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Posted May 1, '13 at 3:29pm

HahiHa

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Knight

This makes economic growth unsustainable in the long run,

Sorry for the bad language, but I sh** on economic growth. That focus on growth is a cancer to the world; see the situation in America. What we need is stability.

I'm not saying our system is perfect; far from it. There are few things we'd need to adapt, like fighting the increasing living costs, and rising the salaries (parts of the reason why some have less children).
On the other side, we're not that bad in a shape like France, where they stop working like five years earlier than everywhere else in Europe.

 

Posted May 1, '13 at 3:41pm

partydevil

partydevil

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but I sh** on economic growth.

look if everyone has only 1 child. then that 1 child has to make money for 3 people when his parents are retired.
if it happens on a large scale it means that it is impossible for the working people to make enough money to sustain the entire population.

if everyone has 2 children then they have to work for 2 people when their parents are retired.
if it happens on a large scale it's more easy to keep enough money coming in to sustain everyone.

i dont know exactly if nicho mend this. but the more children you have to more easy it is to get economic growth. but if you dont have enough children it means that you can't sustain everyone anymore.

 

Posted May 1, '13 at 4:15pm

Kasic

Kasic

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but the more children you have to more easy it is to get economic growth. but if you dont have enough children it means that you can't sustain everyone anymore.

And then we have too many people and the laws of supply and demand kick in. Housing costs go through the roof, space becomes a premium, congestion occurs and kicks up transportation expenditures, pollution blossoms, utilities become strained or limited and the overall quality of life greatly decreases.

All we're doing by following this economic railway is heading for the cliff, gaining momentum as we speed down the hillside.

 

Posted May 1, '13 at 4:30pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,082 posts

Knight

The more children you make, the more you will have to sustain, the mroe you will have to go into debt. Here in Switzerland, contrary to many countries, we also don't have unlimited space. We don't need growth; what we should strive for is stability. If we had population dynamics like in India, we'd be soon doomed.

 

Posted May 1, '13 at 5:22pm

thecode11

thecode11

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Another way but harder way is to use mars and the moon to sustain colonies so we could send people there but eventually we would have to go farther to make more.We could also make more space stations but ones that support lets say 500 people in them.

 

Posted May 1, '13 at 5:25pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,082 posts

Knight

Mars has, so far we know, no nature or ecosystem we need to live with. If we settle there, we bring everything with us. That means we can more or less build on all the surface. Space issues on Mars are irrelevant for now, and will be for a long time.

The perfect thing of course would be either orbital space stations, or even completely free space bases. That way you don't have any space issue at all.

 

Posted May 1, '13 at 6:24pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

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use mars and the moon to sustain colonies

We've already got problems sustaining this little blue dot. Until we have the technology to make such colonies self-sufficient, that's out. At this point, simply spreading everyone out won't help.

 

Posted May 1, '13 at 6:43pm

partydevil

partydevil

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That way you don't have any space issue at all.

there is no space issue tho. and there wont be any even if we are whit 25 billion.
we need to balance our consumerism whit what the planet can give.

 

Posted May 1, '13 at 6:46pm

Kasic

Kasic

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there is no space issue tho. and there wont be any even if we are whit 25 billion.
we need to balance our consumerism whit what the planet can give.

With 25 billion, we won't have space issues for people moving, but we won't have enough land to grow food unless we stack upwards instead of spreading out. Or unless we take to sea-faring cities, which would drastically free up fertile land for farming.

 

Posted May 1, '13 at 6:48pm

partydevil

partydevil

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With 25 billion, we won't have space issues for people moving, but we won't have enough land to grow food unless we stack upwards instead of spreading out. Or unless we take to sea-faring cities, which would drastically free up fertile land for farming.

if 7 billion fir in L.A. then 25 billion fit in california. leaving loads of room for production.

 
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