ForumsWEPRDid World War II justify communism in Russia?

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VoteSocialist
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Stalin was pretty much a terrorist more than anything else, enslaving 1/6 of the earth's land under a strict communist rule. However, Stalin's five year plans and pushes for industrialization might have saved the world from another harsh regime that sought to take over the world by storm and cleanse ethnic minorities. Stalin's rule brought Russia from a Czarist farmland to a modern super power, and thanks to his regime Hitler, and fascism was crushed for good.

Do you think that the economic development communism brought to Russia justified the terror it brought? Do you think there would be a world with any democracy had Stalin not pushed the people of Russia so hard and got the place running in time to top the spread of Nazism?

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You have not been debating with these people on every post you make I see...I waited almost a week before I said that, I think I have gotten to know my opponent, thank you very much!


Then perhaps you should have specified individuals instead of 'all of you'. You may know your opponent, but you're not properly indicating who that is.
VoteSocialist
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Then perhaps you should have specified individuals instead of 'all of you'. You may know your opponent, but you're not properly indicating who that is.


Oh, well it's rude to point out names! I don't want to sound like a bigot or a complete jerk or anything.
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Oh, well it's rude to point out names!


sometimes i think you should
VoteSocialist
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sometimes i think you should


Every time I think I shouldn't.
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Oh, well it's rude to point out names! I don't want to sound like a bigot or a complete jerk or anything.


It's equally rude to include everyone in a generalized statement that is untrue.
VoteSocialist
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It's equally rude to include everyone in a generalized statement that is untrue.


No it's not.
VoteSocialist
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And that has nothing to do with Soviet Russia!

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No it's not.


And that has nothing to do with Soviet Russia!


It really is. I mean the word you chose - bigot:

One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.


That has some strong roots in generalizing statements about groups of people so in saying 'all of you' you are being quite rude.

As for it having nothing to do with Soviet Russia - your last 5 posts haven't had anything to do with Russia, so don't complain about me.
VoteSocialist
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It really is. I mean the word you chose - bigot:


Ok...? I said I didn't want to sound like one.
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Ok...? I said I didn't want to sound like one.


Yes, and I'm indicating that you did, because you generalized with 'all of you' in the post. You came off as a anti-capitalism bigot. If you had indicated *one* person that you were arguing with, that would be different - but instead, you included everyone, including me - and I'm not a proponent of capitalism. As such, I found that rude & insulting to be included in a group that painted me in a light that was inaccurate. That's all.
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Yes, and I'm indicating that you did, because you generalized with 'all of you' in the post. You came off as a anti-capitalism bigot. If you had indicated *one* person that you were arguing with, that would be different - but instead, you included everyone, including me - and I'm not a proponent of capitalism. As such, I found that rude & insulting to be included in a group that painted me in a light that was inaccurate. That's all.


Good bye, i hope this thread get's locked now because you're so sensitive that you need to ruin a perfectly good debate for some stupid thing about me not wanting to pick on people.
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Good bye, i hope this thread get's locked now because you're so sensitive that you need to ruin a perfectly good debate for some stupid thing about me not wanting to pick on people.


I'd argue that you ruined the debate by bringing up something that had nothing to do with Russia. Now that you're gone, maybe people can actually continue to discuss the subject matter.
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oh wow

stalin had warnings of the german attack, including the correct date.
he ignored them.

next, he kills all his generals and officers. oops.

and then he ruins the economy by unsuccsefuly attacking fishland

and when the nazis finally strike, he sits around for two months doin nothin

VoteSocialist
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oh wow
stalin had warnings of the german attack, including the correct date.
he ignored them.
next, he kills all his generals and officers. oops.
and then he ruins the economy by unsuccsefuly attacking fishland
and when the nazis finally strike, he sits around for two months doin nothin


I was the leader of Fishland for decades.
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Maybe...

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