Forums → News and Feedback → Comment/Rate wait increase

Those are the comments we would like to see, yes, but that doesn't mean because it isn't, it should be deleted. The ones I posted are acceptable; the ones that are meaningless aren't. Again, the heading at the top says "Quick Feedback".

Again, the heading at the top says "Quick Feedback".

Others think it's a good idea, others...well, it's a timer. 5 minutes seemed too excessive, but Graham reduced it to 2(?) minutes. Come on. There will still be the same amount of spam, just it will take longer to make it. People who really DO wanna spam the comments will do just so, just they will have to take longer to make it happen. Others that don't plan on doing so will be affected negatively and will have low tolerance for the flexibility of their experience at the site.

"Why should I wait for X amount of time to just comment about how I feel about this game? Should we be affected because of the inevitable habits of spammers?"

Yes, there will be less spam. There will also be less people.

I'm wondering how many posts telling you to read through the thread will actually make you do it.

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How long is 5 minutes really? To get some frame of reference I'll start a timer on playing Warlords 2. I finished the first level as Men of the West and was in buying a unit screen. But that's a long game!

Fragger Lost City: I had to do level 6 twice, I barely got to level 8.

Nanopath: I got to level 10.

Remember, these are all games I've played before, so there's no needing to look how to play it.[/quote]

Folks, please keep in mind as well that we're still unsure of how AP will play into the new comment system we're building. And since game pages may very well get a full "review" news feed where people can post helpful comments, then a general purpose news feed where people can post quick comments seems fine to me.

I think the "spam" flag will help a lot here too -- if you write a comment of "this game sucks" and ten thousand people mark your post as spam, it'll get removed along with any points you got from it, etc. (the number of flags doesn't matter, it's just an example)

I believe the moderators will have their work cut out for them, but I think we're also trying to build in a bit of a self-policing system where you as users can help determine what sort of information is helpful or not.

In a world where Twitter runs rampant, it's getting more and more common to see short text updates about things, so as someone else said, a comment of "5/10 this game is buggy" or "8/10 wow, this is a pretty original game" are totally fine with me.

I'm wondering how many posts telling you to read through the thread will actually make you do it.

It deters rate spamming and comment spamming within a short amount of time. How can people be mad at a time limit, when it takes them that long to actually start playing a game?

5 minutes seemed too excessive, but Graham reduced it to 2(?) minutes.
[quote]I've read this.

[quote=Graham]I never did.[/quote]

....copy the entire quote, thereby taking it out of context.

Actually, I'm willing to be flexible with this. Put a timer on the rating. Make the guys play the game before they decide to rate it, to rule out the unfair, biased, quick judging. Putting a timer on the comments? Puhleez.

However, it is not going to force a person to create a non-spammy comment.

You are not alone in this disappointment.

its the spam itself that we care about! right? If you find a way that we can clear out spam 100% then I be happy to accept and approve your idea,

Putting a timer on the GAME comments? Puhleez.

...copy the entire quote, thereby taking it out of context.

Others think it's a good idea, others...well, it's a timer. 5 minutes seemed too excessive, but Graham reduced it to 2(?) minutes. Come on. There will still be the same amount of spam, just it will take longer to make it.
[quote]I've read this. You are saying that 5 minutes isn't much of a deal when you are active. What justifies your idea? Why will this help? It's not going to stop a thing, just make it slower.

information about what spam is

on the forums they should take the timer away on forum games you dont earn any ap so whats the point?

If we build a forum setup where some forums don't award karma for participation, and people post forum games, then yes perhaps we can also specify that those forums do not have timers involved.

That still leaves things open, however, to spammers/trolls who simply want to cut/paste a bunch of text into several messages just to be annoying.

An increased waiting time for comments and rates would definitely reduce spam -- I've seen some people going down a list of games, giving a one-word comment and a quick rate just for the gain of AP. I approve this idea.

Taking my last idea a step further, we could track the highest karma a user has ever had, and if their karma drops too far away from that old maximum value, *then* we impose a delay between posts.

However, that's not going to stop people from creating alternate accounts just to troll or post spam, at which point we need to start looking for other ways to track user's behaviors to ban them, like maybe a temporary ban on their IP address for a day or two.