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Asherlee
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**Plagiarism**

Plagiarism is defined in dictionaries as "the wrongful appropriation, close imitation, or purloining and
publication, of another author's language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions, and the representation of them
as one's own original work."


Sources: Wiki
Book: Webster's Dictionary

There are two kinds of plagiarism:
-- deliberate plagiarism is where you are intentionally plagiarizing for
personal gain;
-- accidental plagiarism is where you mistakenly plagiarize without intention, whether it is
from incorrectly citing your sources, have a complete or partial ignorance to plagiarism or citing, or have
a complete disregard for citing.
Both types of plagiarism are grounds for referrals to the sticky, warnings,
and bans. (Freakenstein)

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In this section of the forum we want all your posts to be original. This is a debate forum. Citations and original ideas are very important. Please try to follow these guidelines when posting here:

1. All opinions are welcome as long as there is evidence to back up those claims.
(Subjective views do have a place and time)

2. If any portion of your post has been copied from somewhere else besides your own work, then a source MUST be provided.

3. All sources that are cited must be reliable. (This brings us to the next important topic)

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**Reliable Sources**

Again, I've decided to quote wiki on this, but please read the end where I discuss Wikipedia. Wikipedia explains reliable sources in such a simple and great way.

The word "source" as used on Wikipedia has three related meanings: the piece of work itself (the article, book), the creator of the work (the writer, journalist), and the publisher of the work (The New York Times, Cambridge University Press). All three can affect reliability. Reliable sources may be published materials with a reliable publication process, authors who are regarded as authoritative in relation to the subject, or both.

Questionable sources are those with a poor reputation for checking the facts, or with no editorial oversight. Such sources include websites and publications expressing views that are widely acknowledged as extremist, or promotional in nature, or which rely heavily on rumors and personal opinions. Questionable sources are generally unsuitable for citing contentious claims about third parties, which includes claims against institutions, persons living or dead, as well as more ill-defined entities. The proper uses of a questionable source are very limited.


Source: Wiki

Please remember to determine if your source is biased or objective. Here are a few tips for spotting a biased source:

-- Opinions masked as facts

-- The article/journal is peer-reviewed (when applicable)

-- Examine the validity of the study, if one is used (Sample size, diversity, etc)

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Why cite your sources?

-- To give the information's credit to the author

-- Allows for further reading on the topic

-- Increase your credibility on AG

(Freakenstein and Asherlee)

How to cite

-- A simple link:

If you are starting a thread, it is already expected of you to provide a source for what the thread will be about. Simply copy and paste the URL and provide what/where the source is. You can even use words with the links (refer to BBCode Guide v.4.1 for details)."

-- Use Parenthetical Notes

"INFORMATION" (AUTHOR/SITE, YEAR) " You don't have to go into detail and use MLA or APA format, just properly show where you are getting your information from. If you are using a direct source, just quote the info, provide where you found it, and your credibility is saved.

(Freakenstein)

What about paraphrasing?

Paraphrasing is a restatement of a text, passage, or work giving the meaning in another form.
(Source: Webster)

The use of paraphrasing in WEPR is accepted. We should all strive to post a source when paraphrasing another's work. The source does not always have to be a link, a simple mention of where you received your information would suffice. However, if you are challenged by another user on AG to show evidence of your claims, then you must post your source without exception.

(Kudos thepossum for bringing this to light)

What do I do if I spot plagiarism?

Don't spend time on the thread pointing out that someone just plagiarized--report it to a moderator.
Provide 3 links:

1. The user you believe is plagiarizing
2. The actual post he/she plagiarized
3. If you've found the original work

(Asherlee and Freakenstein)

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As you can see, I quoted and sourced wikipedia for some sections of this post. Wikipedia can be a reliable source. You can determine whether or not the information you are using from a Wikipedia article is reliable by referencing the superscripted numbers:

http://i52.tinypic.com/9blzz4.png

will take you to here:

http://i54.tinypic.com/n5htg0.png

These are the references you want to check for reliablity.

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partydevil
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You can't search for information on something if you don't know what you're looking for...duh.

i know what i look for. but a description is to long for google. it will find to much.
xerox
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Guys, i couldn't understand a word from the beginning mostly because when its too long, it too tough to read and i cant read it. Do what is this all about?

Kasic
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Guys, i couldn't understand a word from the beginning mostly because when its too long, it too tough to read and i cant read it. Do what is this all about?


Plagiarism is: The practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.
Kasic
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i know what i look for. but a description is to long for google. it will find to much.


Well...this got cut off so double post time. You don't use a search engine for that partydevil. Like blaming a blender for not being able to cook steak.
xerox
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So we are talking about the show MAD?

Kasic
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So we are talking about the show MAD?


...?

No...what we're talking about is what the title of the thread is (Plagiarism and Reliable Sources) but more specifically how Google is not a source, but a search engine, and how you can use it to find good sources.
shock457
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I really do not like to insult or argue with other users, but, here is a fact.

Google searches are based on popularity. Wikipedia, people can change it with ease. Other websites, some will be reliable, some will be forums, some will be a bunch of random words, the rest will be, you know what.

Kasic
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Google searches are based on popularity.


Yes, they do appear in order of popularity.

Wikipedia, people can change it with ease


Not that anyone is claiming Wikipedia is a reliable source, but you can check their sources and for the most part it's correct.

You can use Google, or any search engine, to get good sources. You just have to look and it's not likely to be the first 1-2 links.
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I always try not to plagiurize when I write. It gets very annoying, though.

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From the Opening Post:

1. All opinions are welcome as long as there is evidence to back up those claims.
(Subjective views do have a place and time)

Definition of 'fact' (via Google): "a piece of information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article"
Definition of 'opinion' (via Google): "a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge"

Most people understand 'fact' as being something that is backed up by evidence, whereas an 'opinion' is primarily viewed as something that is not backed up by evidence because if it was, people would call it a 'fact'.

And there is such a thing as an intelligent opinion. Where there isn't the connectivity of dots to form an entire picture but there are enough dots presently to entertain a basic narrative.

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A claim isn't an opinion. "I consider history to be dull and unimportant" is a statement of opinion. "History is just a bunch of pointless crap" is an opinionated claim. Only the latter requires supporting evidence.

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