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thepyro222
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I grew up atheist for 16 years. I had always kept an open mind towards religion, but never really felt a need to believe in it. My sister started going to a Wednesday night children's program at a church. Eventually, I was dragged into a Christmas Eve service. Scoffing, I reluctantly went, assuming that this was going to be a load of crap, but when I went, I felt something. Something that I've never felt before. I felt a sense of empowerment and a sense of calling. Jesus called upon my soul, just like he did with his disciples. he wanted me to follow him. Now, my life is being lived for Christ. He died on the cross for my sins, and the sins of everyone who believes in him. He was beaten, brutalized, struck with a whip 39 times, made to carry a cross up to the stage of his death. This I believe to be true, and I can never repay him for what he has done.
I still have my struggles with Christianity, but I've found this bit of information most useful. Religion is not comprehensible in the human mind, because we cannot comprehend the idea of a perfect and supreme being, a God, but we can believe it in our heart, and that's the idea of faith. Faith is, even though everything rides against me believing in Jesus, I still believe in him because I know that it's true in my heart. I invite my fellow Brothers and sisters of the LORD to talk about how Jesus has helped you in your life. No atheists and no insults please

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greethan
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Oh man, the trolls have overrun the base.

did we do that Atheism FTW, mind you?

dair5
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Besides history is usally writtin by the winners. So we usally never get the full story.

MageGrayWolf
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Oh man, the trolls have overrun the base.


Giving our view points is not trolling. Debating points being made is not trolling. And no one is restricting you from posting over there. Continuing to call it trolling and trying to silence the opposition only suggests you have a weak position.
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I said it's historical because it recorded probable events. I never said it was accurately depicting those events.


Still doesn't make it historical. By your logic then Star Wars is historical because it is a record of probable events which are claimed to have happened 'long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away'.

Someone recorded something about a big flood. Over time it becomes twisted into a religious story and the big flood turns into a world wide flood.


Certainly, and by the time we arrive at the 'world wide flood' portion we have absolutely nothing of any historic or factual value. What may have once been inspired by something which was true has degenerated into the realm of pure fiction. Simply because something is inspired by factual events it must remain solely factual to be of any historic value or to remain outside the realm of fiction.
darkxrainx
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[quote]Go Christianity

Woooo!

darkxrainx
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Forgive me if I make a mistake posting.. I've never really tried posting on here... It's kind of tricky.. =/

314d1
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Forgive me if I make a mistake posting.. I've never really tried posting on here... It's kind of tricky.. =/


I can tell. You left out the "B" on the start of your post, and instead put a "W". You may wish to avoid further mistakes like this.
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One word posts aren't acceptable either - I'd recommend you go check out the forum rules.

On the topic of the supposed 'global flood' - we know for a fact that no such event took place.

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What may have once been inspired by something which was true has degenerated into the realm of pure fiction.


Actually, many other cultures and religions have stories of a world flood. All the people and boats and such vary, but still the same basic story. A special person was told by their God of a flood and to build a boat. Even the Mayans, who where half way around the world from Israel, had a story such as this. Geological studies have been done on some of the older rocks they have found that prove somehow (I'm not a geologist) that a great flooding did happen.
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True but many river vally civilizations were flooded. So if an eygptian finds a mesopotamian and discovers they both had floods that year, what will they assume?

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Actually, many other cultures and religions have stories of a world flood. All the people and boats and such vary, but still the same basic story. A special person was told by their God of a flood and to build a boat. Even the Mayans, who where half way around the world from Israel, had a story such as this.


Precisely. However all this shows is that people have resorted to their superstitions to explain events which they could not have possibly understood at the time.

Geological studies have been done on some of the older rocks they have found that prove somehow (I'm not a geologist) that a great flooding did happen.


No, quite the opposite. We have evidence of large scale LOCALIZED flooding in very different time frames from place to place, but science has disproved any sort of 'global flood' as not only never having had happened, but being completely impossible.
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Actually, many other cultures and religions have stories of a world flood. All the people and boats and such vary, but still the same basic story.


Multiple flood stories isn't evidence of a singular flood. Also you might note that all of these come from areas that are or were near bodies of water.
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Actually, many other cultures and religions have stories of a world flood


Many other cultures, who lived near the water and thought the world was only a few miles long. Wonder how that could happen.

All the people and boats and such vary, but still the same basic story.


Because the boats of the people making the stories are different than the people who wrote your story. If people who had never seen a boat of such large size, like maybe the Native Americans, had written about a large arc than it may be more impressive, but people living near water who either see or fantasize about boats like this quite often and have flooding is far less impressive.

A special person was told by their God of a flood and to build a boat


Urm. Actually, as far as I know only Abrahamic religions have that.

Even the Mayans, who where half way around the world from Israel, had a story such as this.


But not using an arc, not carrying a ton of animals. Basically some one smarter than the general population thought "You know what? It turns out that every year it floods around the same time. You know, maybe I should prepare for next years now..." and put his stuff into a boat before hand, and his foresight is then attributed to a deity. Simple, ah?

Geological studies have been done on some of the older rocks they have found that prove somehow (I'm not a geologist) that a great flooding did happen.


No there haven't. Simple as that. There are few places where you would find this, not all over the world. For instance a nearby valley was once a large lake, but it was not a "flood" as you call it and it is defiantly not worldwide.
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One word posts aren't acceptable either - I'd recommend you go check out the forum rules.


I'm sorry. I had actually never read the rules. Although now I just did. Thank you for pointing that out.

I can tell. You left out the "B" on the start of your post, and instead put a "W". You may wish to avoid further mistakes like this.


.... I'm a little confused. But that's okay. =/
MageGrayWolf
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.... I'm a little confused. But that's okay. =/


Woooo! - W + B = Boooo!
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