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NoNameC68
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A bunch of "health experts" are trying to make it so that McDonalds can't advertise to kids aged 2 to 17.

Honestly, I don't know which is more insulting: the fact a few people want to control everyone's lives because they feel their own philosophy of right and wrong is the only right philosophy, or the fact that 17 year olds are being considered children.

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Kasic
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They have these play areas in McDonalds with slides and rides for children. I know my young relatives like to go there just to play. It's a draw for children, like a small amusement park rather than a restaurant.


Yes, I know, I too have played on them :P Anyways...eating fast food won't harm you unless you consume it a LOT, like, more than once every few days, and only then if you're not physically active. Really, just general over-eating is bad for you, it doesn't matter if it's a salad or cheeseburger, you're still eating more than you need. That's why diet programs that say you can eat w/e you want while on it are not good, and why programs like Weightwatchers - which teaches you how to control how much you eat and what type - are far superior.
barney003
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Yes, I know, I too have played on them :P Anyways...eating fast food won't harm you unless you consume it a LOT, like, more than once every few days, and only then if you're not physically active. Really, just general over-eating is bad for you, it doesn't matter if it's a salad or cheeseburger, you're still eating more than you need.

It also depends on you hormonal efficiency. If by eating anything, you go fat , then there is no point eating burger's and vice versa.
qwerty1011
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Look, while they may have had a point about really little kids the fact that they go up to 17 is just too patronizing for them to have a point. I am 12 and I reserve the right to choose what to eat with or without advertising. And they say it takes another 5 years to do this. I don't know what kind of an idiot came up with that age group.

Armed_Blade
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OHHHHHHHHHHHH, never mind. Thanks Moe, didn't see that. Guess I should never jump to conclusions. SORRY ARMED_BLADE!!!!


Haha that's fine. You have no idea how close I was to raging But no hard feelings, Zakyman.

ADULTS (or educated youth) WILL know the issues with this (fat etc.) and will be able to conciously CHOOSE what they want. Kids can't choose.
As, for Subway - aren't YOU choosing EXACTLY what will be in your sandwich in Subway?


I believe kids can choose. It depends on parental control. I understand that parents aren't supposed to be demi-gods to children, but when my little sister was seven years old, 7, she was getting a little flabby and she told my mom to bring in some veggies. Kids can chose when they know wtf is going on.

Now of course if a kid see's "I'm lovin it" all the time they would wanna love some, too. I think it is up to parents to stop that or tell them what ads are really for. At a young age my dad told me ads don't really prove anything they're just trying to get you to do something. He also gave me a good explanation -- he asked if I've ever gotten a burger like the one I see on the ads.

And I suppose the choosability of Subway is what makes it such a favorable contender. I know people that eat very healthy that go there, as well as people that like to mash up the fatty bread and all the ranches.

Let's not forget that parents have everything at their disposal to find out whether or not the food can be deemed nutritional.


Very true. We should not be unfair and take away the televising ability of a corporation because people are stupid.
Also, how on earth would you deem what channels/in what style would the ads be ranked away from this age group?

And what is scarier is that this could start a very social precedent of blocking out issues in society in our media, which is so not what this nation has done for... ever.

Look, while they may have had a point about really little kids the fact that they go up to 17 is just too patronizing for them to have a point. I am 12 and I reserve the right to choose what to eat with or without advertising. And they say it takes another 5 years to do this. I don't know what kind of an idiot came up with that age group.


Yeah honestly, only a few good ads ever really attracted me towards barely thinking about something after the age of like... 11.

Anyways...eating fast food won't harm you unless you consume it a LOT,


I'm not so sure that's true. Even once every few days can be pretty detrimental. It depends on what you mean by 'fat' though. A lot of people, without even realizing it, usually live on the border of their calorie intake limit. So when they eat some stuff, they start gaining weight quick.

Now obviously, to get obese, it takes some work, but lets face it, continuously eating it not only leads to more fat overall, and it keeps people chubby without much work.
It also gives people a thought that 'hmm, I' not obese yet, and I eat so much. A little more wont' kill'. So I think the best way to go about it is to see it as a source for when you're low on cash or on the road or haven't had it in a while.

And, I understand that some of the poor might usually rely on this low income food -- but I think that in it's own is perfectly acceptable.

Still, though I don't like fatties when they're fatties out of laziness, I think it's unfair and politically incorrect to stop advertisements.

And seriously... 17, wtf.
Masterforger
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Well, that's the fast-food industry for you. I am glad i dont live in america, or have an american passport. If you have a passport from somewhere else, your fine. Why? Because the U.S. has meddled in to much for its passport bearers to be trusted. My advice, dont go somewhere like Iraq unless you have a very good reason

cristianrap
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pfff experts who say that are dumb
I do not like what they say

Armed_Blade
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or have an american passport.


Off-Topic, but that comment is insane.
American passports are one of the most unregulated in the world, and I have one. I've traveled through the Middle East multiples of times and I go to Pakistan.
I am brown and Muslim though, so I suppose my personal advice doesn't count for much. Even then, I've never heard of anyone 'fearing' having an American passport. Americans go virtually everywhere if they want.
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Dont blame Mcd's Blame the parents who are too lazy to COOK dinner for their children and make excuses that there too busy, its easy, they like it etc. Sure we ate at McDonalds once in a while but some families eat there 3 4 times a week. Pathetic in my humble opinion.

DustyLee
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mcdonalds doesnt say "eat us everymeal and ul be healthy!" people no that it leads to heart disease and obesity. but with lack of better words...people are fat, they dont want to eat vegiies and fruit when they could have mcds.. mcdnlds cant be blamed for peoples lack of self control. They also offer salads at mcds and stuff

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Dont blame Mcd's Blame the parents who are too lazy to COOK dinner for their children and make excuses that there too busy, its easy, they like it etc. Sure we ate at McDonalds once in a while but some families eat there 3 4 times a week. Pathetic in my humble opinion.


I eat McDonalds for breakfast 2 or 3 times aweek. Not because my mom doesn't cook, can't cook, or anything like that. Its simply because its cheaper to order 2 things off the dollar menu than it is to buy groceries.

The problem with obesity, as DustyLee said, is that people lack self control. Its the mindset of 'That was good; I wan't more' that screws people over. I've had to stop myself and wait 20 minutes for my blood suger to jump to see if I really am hungry and if I really need that second burger.

Its pointless to try and moderate a fast food company. Really, Imagine walking in and instead of a Big Mac... A Big Brother. In this case, people make the concious decsion to have that extra large soda rather than a water. McDonalds offers several healthier alternatives. Water and milk rather than soda, salads rather than a burger, and apple slices rather than fries.

So if you want to cut down on obesity, you need to make the healthier choices more appealing, enhance a persons self control, and somehow figure out how to get them to wait inbetween their first and possible second orders. McDonalds is a very successful corporation; They WILL find a way to get those customers in, even if their commercials are given the axe.
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They WILL find a way to get those customers in, even if their commercials are given the axe.


But should they be given the axe?

I eat McDonalds for breakfast 2 or 3 times aweek. Not because my mom doesn't cook, can't cook, or anything like that. Its simply because its cheaper to order 2 things off the dollar menu than it is to buy groceries.


Dude... ever heard of Costco? Buying your cereal in bulk will probably equalize the same amount of money, I'm sure.
Also, as far as I know, and this is of no insult for you, but the majority of people that do eat fast food or, rather, simply eat unhealthy, is not for the economic benefit of it but because it tastes good. I've been to fat peoples homes, some of them have food filled pantries.

Also, I'm guessing that once someone's kinda fat they might feel the freedom to eat whatever they want since they're already fat? Sounds kinda mean but I wonder if that's true..
Maverick4
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But should they be given the axe?


I personally don't think so. They're obeying all the current laws about advertising (the products not dangerous, no subliminal messaging, etc), and they're not forcing anyone to buy their product. So I don't really see what the problem is.

Dude... ever heard of Costco? Buying your cereal in bulk will probably equalize the same amount of money, I'm sure.


We moved about two years ago, and our new place doesn't have a Costco thats near enough to be economically worth going out there, especially with the price of gas the way it is. There aren't any places that sell food items in bulk around where I live. Plus, the McDonalds is on the way to school.

Also, I'm guessing that once someone's kinda fat they might feel the freedom to eat whatever they want since they're already fat? Sounds kinda mean but I wonder if that's true..


I used to be slightly overweight when I was 10,11,12, so I was of the mindset of 'I'm alreadly fat, so eating this much food won't make a difference'. It's not really mean, it just happens to be true, atleast in my case.
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