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cormyn
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This is another re-take on the Armatar discussion because we need to clarify a few points.

First, this topic is to discuss how the AG3 beta manages armatars.

Secondly, if you just want to ask for new armatars, discuss it with Dan.

Third, we are still discussing whether we want to allow custom armatars in the future, because of copyright and licensing issues that will come up from that, so that idea is ON HOLD.

If messages in here aren't about the interface we've built, how we could improve it, etc., then I'll probably trim the message.

Questions about how to unlock armatars, etc., are totally welcome and I'll provide answers as I have them. As of the time I write this, the understanding I have is that all AG2 armatars will be unlocked on AG3 by default, and we will unlock seasonal armatars through some process eventually.

We are also going to start asking game developers for one or more armatars related to their game, which users can select, but I don't think they'll be locked in any way. We've talked about unlocking special armatars based on achievements, but since achievements aren't finished yet, we can't go into much detail on that.

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Cenere
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That could be a problem... it could be hosted by a normal user and then occasionally checked by a moderator. I am not sure if that will work though.

It would doubtfully work with a regular user passing out judgement on what and what shouldn't be an armatar. One thing is the poetry contests, where there is a simple merit award per win, and there is always a new chance. It doesn't actually affect anything, besides someone getting 25 points more.
With armatars, if your armatar suggestion is not selected, obviously you are no good at art, the judge is biased, all that jazz.

And it doesn't stop this from being something a mod will have been forced into, if they are the one responsible for getting the armatars up and so on.
No, I really do believe that, should anything like this work out, you either have to have a mod that actually cares about this enough to volunteer, or an admin that can get the job done instantly.

Personally I still hope they go for the "If you have enough reputation and have been a member for long enough and you are generally awesome, we will let you upload [number] of armatars, which can be used either by you or the public". Though that again might mean more annoying work tasks for mods.
inflict
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i think that would be good too. people who do enough good things on AG should be rewarded.
just a question. who makes the armatars at the moment?

nichodemus
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who makes the armatars at the moment?


The artist who made them left AG a long time ago.
Cenere
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Except the dinos. Zophia made those.
But otherwise, I think "who made the armatars" might be the best kept secret on AG.

younieboy
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@ cenere
who ever made it was very good in it
there are very beautiful armatars

Cenere
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Well, technically we have three different official armatar artists. The one that made the ones like yours, which is most likely vector based, then the one that made the more sketchy mythology set, and then Zophia's dinos.
And then perhaps one of the staff members that made the shields when they decided poor mods and dedicated users should no longer be able to keep the armatar they knew and loved.

I do enjoy the first batch, it is very good, though some of the expressions and colours might not have been what I picked, had I been in that situation.
But well, there is a reason why I am trying to imitate the style when I do armatries.

321Waffle
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Is the only way to unlock new Armatars by getting AP?

Omnihero10
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yea... that getting old. y not beat a game and unlock the Army of ages armatar or any game thats promoted by Armor games... y not have armatars like "achievment" but you can read up on what you gotta do, just let it happen

Marius2323
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When I come on the beta, I see my old armatar!
That's weird..

GhostOfMatrix
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Is the only way to unlock new Armatars by getting AP?

Currently, but on AG3 they may scrap that idea and make them public.
Man_O_War
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I really don't like the idea of custom Armatars based on my experience with Call of Duty Black Ops. In COD/BO, you can use the system to create a custom logo, avatar that is harassing, sexist and very immoral to many other users. I feel that in this game setting, people will use programs to create .jpgs or bitmaps that will be offensive in nature. Even if they are pulled down or kicked, I dont want to see it even for a minute. An avatar shaped like a **** or other body parts, would be highly offensive to many. So please dont allow for it. Just use only your own imbedded custom avatars. They are good enough for This type of game playing.

Cenere
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I can only assume that was the reason the staff has put custom armatars at the bottom of their to-do list and "No custom armatars" has been added to the title.
One thing that has been pointed out, however, is that if they do actually add a way to add your own armatars, they will not be instantly usable, but will have to go through a throughout check on both copyright, trademarks and whether it is following the rules or not, you will not be able to add armatars before you either have a specific amount of points, a specifically high reputation or both.
And if you do post something that will break the rules, is copyrighted or looks anything like something that would offend people or get AG in trouble, you would probably be banned.

So fearing abusive, offensive armatars is probably not something that you should even relate to AG.

joshuabaillargeon
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you should use custom armatars after filtering. have you decided yet?

nichodemus
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you should use custom armatars after filtering


Filtering would most likely be manual, given the hundreds of ways humans can ingeniously disguise undesirable imagery. After thousands of years of existence, and we still use our creativity, for the most part, on our most base and primal urges. I doubt a bot can be created to begin the sorting the process, and it would be unfair on the mods/admins to filter every single one of the armatars.
Schmiddy1234
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May i ask:
How do u even get to have a custom armatar in the first place?

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