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Posted Nov 4, '11 at 6:32pm

mdv96
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9 9 9
Im sure we all heard of it, Herman Cain's 9 9 9 economic plan. The most appealing part of this to me is the 9% flat business tax. We (america) are the idiots who have a crushing 39% tax under the Obama regime. With a 39% business tax, is it a question why american businesses are going overseas? They have 2 choices:
1. Stay and go out of business
or
2. Leave and stay in business
With the 9% tax, not only will our businesses come home, but other foreign based businesses will come to america. I think this plan will thrust our country out of the recession. It will be far more effective (in a good way) than anything Obama has done so far for the economy.
What do you think?
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Posted Nov 4, '11 at 6:54pm

dair5
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Well, I don't really know much about economics, but the way you made you point sounds good to me. But I think we'll need to do a lot more. I don't think that just lowering business tax will get us out of a recession. I think we'll have to do more, and that it'll take a while to work at first. So we'll need to cut some things, and use strategys to make money in other ways. Preferably before so that we're on safe ground before we do this.
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Posted Nov 4, '11 at 6:57pm

mdv96
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Of course. Government spending has to be cut dramatically. But since the 9 9 9 plan will create jobs, less money will need to be spend on food stamps and welfare.
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Posted Nov 4, '11 at 6:59pm

Avorne
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Aww, I thought this thread was about the British emergency services, anyways - hasn't he swapped his plan around a little since it was first announced?
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Posted Nov 4, '11 at 7:47pm

Moe
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According to wikipedia we have a 34-35% corporate tax. And I highly doubt that has anything to do with Obama.
Also business leave because of more than just taxes. They also leave because we have a minimum wage that companies think is too high, yet is barely enough to live on.
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Posted Nov 4, '11 at 8:01pm

partydevil
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Im sure we all heard of it, Herman Cain's 9 9 9 economic plan. The most appealing part of this to me is the 9% flat business tax. We (america) are the idiots who have a crushing 39% tax under the Obama regime.
remember that those 30% now needs to be payed by the people.
if you just cut taxes you ruin yourself whit going bankrupt
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Posted Nov 4, '11 at 9:42pm

waluigi
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remember that those 30% now needs to be payed by the people.
if you just cut taxes you ruin yourself whit going bankrupt
However, if you notice, the 9-9-9 plan also cuts a persons income tax to 9%, leaving you with more money.
I do like the 9-9-9 plan as well. Lower business tax means more jobs, while lower income tax means you can keep your money.
One thing I'm not so sure about with this is what comes after the imposition of these taxes. The plan calls for a removal of the 16th amendment. I know no one likes taxes, but the government does need to collect some income tax. It also calls for a complete change to the IRS, which I'm not sure will be for the better or worse (I'm getting this from MDV's link).
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Posted Nov 4, '11 at 9:46pm

zakyman
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Herman Cain's plan has absolutely no sense in fiscal responsibility. The plan would reduce the income the government takes in, and would increase the amount payed by some citizens. While the plan would make corporate businesses pay less, some already have negative income taxes, because of the sheer number of loopholes in the system. I am in favor of closing those loopholes, and throwing the 9 9 9 plan out the window. If you support this plan, then have fun being owned by China, as our debt would increase dramatically.
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Posted Nov 4, '11 at 10:04pm

JimmyDimples
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The problem's the spending. Even if tax is 100%, if the spending is 101% of that, it does no good.
And Cain has said, "Get this part. No loopholes for anybody."
Hey, if 10% is good enough for Jesus...
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Posted Nov 4, '11 at 10:17pm

partydevil
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have fun being owned by China, as our debt would increase dramatically.
the usa has only 2 trillion of the max 17 trillion debt left. untill countrys will stop giving usa money untill they pay. the usa will no longer be seen as that country we can trust on. just like the banks don't trust you as much anymore when your own debt went up to high.
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Posted Nov 5, '11 at 12:08pm

mdv96
616 posts
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If you support this plan, then have fun being owned by China, as our debt would increase dramatically.
Actually, the entire point of this plan revolves on the slash of Government spend, especially money we don't have.
Also, im not sure of the exact figure but Obama did increase the debt of our country to well over 100% from its figure in 2008.
Think about it...
It took America from 1776-2008 to do what Obama has done from 2008-2011 and not in a good way.
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