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Is homosexuality right or wrong?

Posted Feb 1, '14 at 8:19pm

Fiends

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[Citation needed]


Pretty self explanatory, it's the typical case of spare the rod, spoil the child, if you let your child watch Adventure Time or some other fruity show like that instead of letting him/her watch let's say Dragon Ball Z there will be more chances of him/her being gay considering how kids look up to the protag of the series, it's obvious that it's up to the parents if your kid turns into a homo.

Ok, let's just assume this is correct. Why is that a bad thing?


Homosexuality injures the fabric of society, especially children.

A societal acceptance of same sex relationships gives vulnerable children the impression that same sex relationships are good, moral and healthy. Not only does the Bible condemn such behavior, but medical professionals have affirmed that these kinds of sexual relationships are unhealthy. A society that accepts immoral relationships cause children to stumble into immorality.

Homosexuality is anti procreation.

Logically speaking, if everyoneâs sexuality was expressed heterosexually, then humanity will survive and perpetuate our own kind for generations to come. But simply put, if everyoneâs sexuality was expressed homosexually, we would go extinct. Therefore homosexuality is counter productive to the survival of the human race.

Homosexuals have a higher incidence of infidelity.

Defining a Homosexual relationship as loving and monogamous ignores the reality of same sex relationships. Many say that the premise on which we should accept same sex unions is that some of them are âloving, monogamous relationships.â Same sex unions may be loving and monogamous from a worldly viewpoint, but if they had âreal godly loveâ they would not subject each other to unnatural sexual activity that leads each other into sin. When we lead others into sin, we are no longer walking in love. In regards to homosexual monogamy, homosexuals remain faithful to one partner about 25% of the time. This is a much lower fidelity rate, than their heterosexual counterparts, which is 80%. It is not unusual for homosexuals to have hundreds of sexual partners in a life time.

This would be a fine time to point out that I am a child raised by a single parent.


Homosexuality does not offer the stability of a traditional family.

Children need the stability of a traditional family. Children need a real male Father and a female Mother for proper and healthy development. Naturally speaking, there is the necessity of each of the male and female contributions to a childâs life. (It has already been proven that boys without fathers end up in jail and practice destructive behaviors a great deal more than those who have fathers.) The vast majority of the public knows instinctively that it would be better if both parents are present in a childâs life. Once concealed research shows that a child who is brought up in a homosexual home may be more likely to engage in homosexuality. But is it loving to expose children to the predominantly damaging lifestyle of homosexuality? If homosexuality can be learned, what does that say about the argument that people are born that way?


tl;dr: 2 homosexual parents don't offer the stabilty of a traditional family, homosexuality can stop procreation, homosexual relations are less healthy.
 

Posted Feb 1, '14 at 8:22pm

Fiends

Fiends

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You're still claiming homosexuality is inherently wrong, yet have provided nothing to support your claims that it is inherently wrong. Where is the scientific article peer reviewed by Ph.D's in their field that recorded a study showing homosexuality is inherently wrong?


@Freakenstein read up^ figured i could kill two birds with one stone.
 

Posted Feb 1, '14 at 8:34pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

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but medical professionals have affirmed that these kinds of sexual relationships are unhealthy.

I'm pretty sure that there are all sorts of diseases resulting from heterosexual relationships too.

if everyoneâs sexuality was expressed heterosexually, then humanity will survive and perpetuate our own kind for generations to come. But simply put, if everyoneâs sexuality was expressed homosexually, we would go extinct.

Sex isn't required for baby-making anymore.

homosexuals remain faithful to one partner about 25% of the time. This is a much lower fidelity rate, than their heterosexual counterparts, which is 80%.

Source?

Once concealed research shows that a child who is brought up in a homosexual home may be more likely to engage in homosexuality.

Please cite the revealed research.
 

Posted Feb 1, '14 at 8:39pm

Freakenstein

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Pretty self explanatory, it's the typical case of spare the rod, spoil the child, if you let your child watch Adventure Time or some other fruity show like that instead of letting him/her watch let's say Dragon Ball Z there will be more chances of him/her being gay considering how kids look up to the protag of the series, it's obvious that it's up to the parents if your kid turns into a homo.


This is not a citation--this is coming from your own fingers.

Homosexuality injures the fabric of society, especially children.


Can I have that scientific article peer reviewed by Ph.D's in their field that concludes this is true?

A societal acceptance of same sex relationships gives vulnerable children the impression that same sex relationships are good, moral and healthy


They are. In fact, they are more stable, healthy, and moral than heterosexual relationships. Less domestic violence, better care of children (in fact they often to much better in education), less law breaking.

Not only does the Bible condemn such behavior


Jesus never said he condemned behavior (aka the final say in everything Bible-related), but John did. But even John created a foreword before these passages mentioning "as long as you are faithful to your lord and savior, you should have no trouble being accepted by Him".

So go ahead and give me a reference that Jesus himself condemns homosexuality. I'll then give you a reference that Jesus condemns trees if they don't bear fruit for him, condemns shellfish, condemns tattoos, condemns certain articles of clothing, condemns working on Passover, and condemns working on Sunday.

but medical professionals have affirmed that these kinds of sexual relationships are unhealthy


Can I have that scientific article peer reviewed by Ph.D's in their field that concludes this is true?

Homosexuality is anti procreation.


So?

Logically speaking, if everyoneâs sexuality was expressed heterosexually, then humanity will survive and perpetuate our own kind for generations to come. But simply put, if everyoneâs sexuality was expressed homosexually, we would go extinct. Therefore homosexuality is counter productive to the survival of the human race.


And Logically speaking, this phenomenon would never happen in the legacy of the human race. Yet Homosexuality is still productive to the survival of the human race. That is why Homosexuality is even a trait to begin with (yes, it is a genetic trait).

Homosexuality does not offer the stability of a traditional family.


Can I have that scientific article peer reviewed by Ph.D's in their field that concludes this is true?

Once concealed research shows that a child who is brought up in a homosexual home may be more likely to engage in homosexuality.


Can I have that scientific article peer reviewed by Ph.D's in their field that concludes this is true?

If homosexuality can be learned, what does that say about the argument that people are born that way?


Homosexuality can be "learned" but it's laughable to suggest heterosexual people will actually practice it. Nobodychooses to be homosexual. Why would anybody want to be in a world where homosexuality is intolerable with various degrees of force, including the death penalty and severe torture?
 

Posted Feb 1, '14 at 8:48pm

Fiends

Fiends

114 posts

I'm pretty sure that there are all sorts of diseases resulting from heterosexual relationships too.


So noted.

Can I have that scientific article peer reviewed by Ph.D's in their field that concludes this is true?


Meh, don't believe me if you like, everyone's entitled to their own beliefs(whether i like it or not) and i doubt that i will ever change your mentality towards gays .

So?


Hope you're joking.


Can I have that scientific article peer reviewed by Ph.D's in their field that concludes this is true?


http://www.drtraycehansen.com/Pages/writings_prohomo.html

http://www.coolcontent.com/Fathers/

http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/view_press_release.php?rID=6509

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/feb/040223a.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52876

http://www.pridesource.com/rssarticle.shtml?article=35233

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/qa22.htm
 

Posted Feb 1, '14 at 8:57pm

Freakenstein

Freakenstein

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Hope you're joking.


Do you also think that Celibates and Asexuals are wrong because they don't procreate? I hope you do, because otherwise, this would further support your hypocrisy.

I see several ".com" websites.These are terrible websites to present rational viewpoints, because they don't actually provide objective sources to their arguments. Where are the studies? Where is the science?

But let's look at that cdc.gov link. Dot Gov websites are good.

..... What part of this link am I supposed to be looking at? This redirected me to a lobby.
 

Posted Feb 1, '14 at 9:01pm

Fiends

Fiends

114 posts

Do you also think that Celibates and Asexuals are wrong because they don't procreate? I hope you do, because otherwise, this would further support your hypocrisy.


Yep, i also think that that's wrong, i only care about the human race continuing and that's my only interest which is why i despise homosexuals.
 

Posted Feb 1, '14 at 9:16pm

Freakenstein

Freakenstein

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Yep, i also think that that's wrong, i only care about the human race continuing and that's my only interest which is why i despise homosexuals.


Then you are actively against the peaceful religions with people that wish to be left alone.

But really though. We've established that the average homosexual relationships are more stable, friendly, and lawful than the average heterosexual relationships. We've established that the homosexual population contributes to society in the past, present, and likely the future.

So now the only thing you have left to knock on is "they don't procreate, so they're still wrong".

What if I told you that some do as surrogate fathers and mothers, just like some heterosexual couples do?
 

Posted Feb 1, '14 at 9:21pm

Fiends

Fiends

114 posts

What if I told you that some do as surrogate fathers and mothers, just like some heterosexual couples do?


Hm, well said, but let me ask you a question; the gay parents inculcate their kids to be gay, what if their offspring doesn't do the same?
 

Posted Feb 1, '14 at 9:23pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,436 posts

what if their offspring doesn't do the same?

What if they do?
 
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