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bigmac258
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how do you feel about kids under 10 playing rated m games honestly i think its annoying

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TRUdog
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There are a lot of variables. Such as what the child is exposed to everyday, his/her maturity, etc.

I think it mostly depends on the type of game. If you're playing something like Skyrim, it doesn't really matter. There isn't really any nudity or that much cursing.
But, on the other hand, if it's something like GTA, I think we should be a bit concerned.

Honestly, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Kids are getting exposed to so much lately. If they go to a public school, they're around it all the time.

I'm not saying it's a non-issue, of course. If kids are going around, having sex, using drugs, and killing in a game, they may think it's acceptable to repeat that behavior in the real world.

mdv96
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Rockstar Games Says that you can't blame the makers for producing adult games like GTA. Believe it or not, parents SHOULD regulate what their child sees. Poor parenting is to blame.

This is True.

The parents are the ones who make the final decisions. The ESRB, PEGI, and basically every reputable rating company produces an accurate and reliable synopsis of the adult content (or lack there-of) in a game. 17+ in rated M games means its an adult for an older audience. This doesn't mean that kids under 17 shouldn't play it- maturity plays a role as well. 13 Year olds can play if the parents decide that he/she is mature enough.

ChillzMaster
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Appareantly some people play games just to see 18+ content. There was comment at Metacritics about Skyward Sword (it got erased) where somebody said: This game sucks because there's no nudity or blood.


Ah well, there are just some really gored-up folk who can't associate quality with anything else other than a good ol' M on the box cover.

And can I have the link to the comment please? Just to prove you're not lyin' >8^D

I cannot find source I've seen it in TV news. Those kids said they thought that murder will be fun and they also said they thought that based on GTA (they said some game I don't really remember if it's GTA)


Is it GTA or isn't it? And if it's a news network, then they have a website with a cache of news reports, or youtube will probably have something. It's not hard to find a source, it's the sodding Internet.

Personally, over half of the best games I've ever played were E or T, and no blood in most of the T ones. Only a scant few M's at all.


I can't say the same for myself; my library is heavily skewed towards the M rating. The thing about the rating, however, is that it allows developers to really explore more mature elements and themes in a game, really let a player go through hardcore experiences, not in the sense of gore or blood, but emotional, close-to-home-hitting experiences, trials, tribulations, and decisions.

A T-rated Mass Effect or Deus Ex just would not be able to explore their respected target messages as well, due to content restraints. An excellent example of a well made, well thought-out, and close to home game that uses its M rating to the fullest is Rockstar's Western gem, the 2010 GOTY, Red Dead Redemption.

If kids are going around, having sex, using drugs, and killing in a game, they may think it's acceptable to repeat that behavior in the real world.


Key word in your argument is "they may think...". If a pre-teen is capable of enjoying an M-rated experience while being able to process what is acceptable in-game and what's acceptable in the real world, then why should s/he be held back from some truly great experiences like Mass Effect, the aforementioned Red Dead Redemption, Halo, Call of Duty 4, and Bioshock?

The ESRB, PEGI, and basically every reputable rating company produces an accurate and reliable synopsis of the adult content (or lack there-of) in a game. 17+ in rated M games means its an adult for an older audience. This doesn't mean that kids under 17 shouldn't play it- maturity plays a role as well. 13 Year olds can play if the parents decide that he/she is mature enough.


My argument in a nutshell.

-Chillz
Somewhat49
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If kids are going around, having sex, using drugs, and killing in a game, they may think it's acceptable to repeat that behavior in the real world.

There is kids going around doing that stuff, and they don't need a game to tell them to do it. You can't blame stuff on video games because there is a million other ways the child learned that those posibilities are acceptable.
MrPhoenomenal
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A lot of kids these days (10-18) know about all the stuff that's in the rated M games. (Sex, drugs, killing, etc.) So it doesn't really matter if young kids play those games, unless they demonstrate those actions to other people.

TRUdog
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If a pre-teen is capable of enjoying an M-rated experience while being able to process what is acceptable in-game and what's acceptable in the real world, then why should s/he be held back from some truly great experiences

This is true. The kids maturity level does have a lot to do with it.

You can't blame stuff on video games because there is a million other ways the child learned that those posibilities are acceptable.

Yes, bet we're talking about pre-teens/children, here. While some kids do do that stuff, most kids only start getting involved when they are in high school.
And of course, there are a ton of other ways a child can learn those behaviors. But limiting the use of 'M' rated games may preserve the child's innocence, just a little bit, at least.
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Lol here on philipines i see alot of Street children go into internet cafe's playing GTA San andreas and any other Rockstar games that has disturbing materials. But either way there's always a giant warning before playing the game like how COD MW3 introduced it.

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The first thing that popped into my head was exactly what Bluerabbit said. Age is not only of appearance, but is in the mind. I believe when I was merely a child (7-9 years old) where I played this M rated game called Max Payne where I still play today. It's a game filled with lots of violence, drugs, sexual scenes etc. The gameplay was fun, and I guessed I blocked out all of the inappropriate elements. It's my nature

But onto the point, Kids have a good chance of being effected by very explicit gameplay at a young age. It's not 100% correct, for me example, but it can very well happen to other kids. Modern kids should be restricted to just Teen rated games, but that rule is only controlled by the parents.

Basically, if the kids are mature enough, the games won't hurt them as much.

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I don't see why Halo is a rated m game I know there is swearing but the blood is blue

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its so sad... thoe m rated games are supposed to be mature but if you notice they always draw a picture of KILL EVERYBODY and if you get killed ITS OK JUST CONTINUE TO KILL EVERYBODY.

other games that are meant for children (actually they are meant for everybody) usually have childish graphics (usually older games), simpler stories and goals but actually have a much deeper meanings. in those games friends and family can actually die and sometimes only a really mature mind can see the main idea behind the game.

take mother 3 for example. you will look at the graphics, listen to the music and see how childish and simple and full of sunshine this game is. but next to those things are also some horibble things.

and the sad thing about this all is that children usually play the m rated games and get the REAL games that piant the childish picture of "do whatever you want" while only few (sadly MUCH older) people play the other games that can actually talk about the important things.

and so, by not playing mother 3 (and many other great games) many porkies were born.

dont get me wrong, even though i dont like those fps and other new games i have nothing against them. but if children really have such small, close minds parents should let them start with mario and other more simple games and only then move on to the m rated games.

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games may preserve the child's innocence, just a little bit, at least.

I dont think there really is any innocence to preserve by the time a kid is able to play video games and understand the concepts of M games, really people think that letting kids play those games would be a life scarring experience when it really is not life scarring at all unless you truly live in a squeaky clean, gated community that has it's own private school that is closely monitored.

Also I really dont see why M games are considered so bad, sex is not even really shown and instead hinted at in really stupid ways (but in Postal it's more of a screaming hint) while sex is a normal thing that the human race needs to do to preserve the species and I actually have a few rated E games that display the concept of sex, an example of that is SIM Life which actually if you can ever find, is quite a interesting simulation. Then there is blood and gore, something M games are infamous for, you get cut and you bleed, you fall far and you get hurt quite badly, projectiles traveling fast do alot more than just make you fly back or go "ow", projectiles moving quicky at you will cut you up and kill you, why this is being censored from kids I have no idea. Now wih themes it's either you get them or you don't and quite mature themes are already present in E games like Mother 3 as mentioned in the above post and concepts of tourture from a couple of teen games.
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There in my country there was recently case where few boys killed girl because they thought it will be fun - based on GTA.



Another guy hypnotized by the media. Look, there's no way to prove it was the games fault. It could have been after they ate a sandwich. But if the have one violent game in the house its automatically the games fault. Look, Crack.com agrees with me, Don't cry Jennifer forums agrees, FOR GODS SAKE EVEN COMPANIES AGREE WITH ME! So please, realize it is not the games fault.
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I don't see why Halo is a rated m game I know there is swearing but the blood is blue

I don't think the color of the blood matters :P
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It depends on the maturity of the kid.

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it depends on the maturity of the kid.


I fully agree with that.
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