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is abortion ok?

Posted May 19, '12 at 4:50pm

toemas

toemas

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Is abortion ok? I donât think so. The babies that these people are killing is wrong, some people say that itâs not a person that itâs a bag of cells or a fetus and not really human being I have to disagree

Please debate

 

Posted May 19, '12 at 5:24pm

jt25rox

jt25rox

344 posts

No a fetus is a human it has a heart beat

 

Posted May 19, '12 at 5:35pm

Moe

Moe

1,777 posts

I am of the opinion that abortion is ok up to a point. I don't remember how many weeks it is, something like 17-22 sounds right though. Until that point the brain is not capable of running the body or any kind of thought. Past that point is where more and more human mental capabilities start appearing, that is where I think a fetus becomes a human.

 

Posted May 19, '12 at 5:36pm

HahiHa

HahiHa

5,533 posts

Knight

Out of context!!!!

Sorry, I had to...

Nobody says that abortion is comparable to, I don't know, going to the dentist. But you have to see that in some cases abortion is the most sensible thing to do while total prohibition creates only pain and suffering (not that abortion is completely pain-free for the mother, but we're talking on different scales here).

First, children are one of the most important causes of poverty. Fact. Now, what if a woman is pregnant and cannot support financially a child? Forcing her to give birth will ruin her, and the child. You don't want that now don't you.

There's of course the case of ****. If a woman gets *****, and she gets pregnant, what sort of immoral person would force her to keep the baby which will have a major impact on the whole rest of her life (usually a negative one)?

There's a certain point up to when we can say the embroy isn't developed enough yet to be qualified as sentient being; it's just a piece of cells, just like a tumor if you think of it. If abortion is immoral, shouldn't cancer extractions be too?

Lastly, whether abortion is legal and affordable or not, women WILL abort, at least a big part of them. They'll find other ways, and those are usually extremely risky because they're illegal and unprofessional, thus constitute a huge risk for the mother and the child (both might die). You don't want that either don't you.

People should of course still be sensibilized and educated about sex, contraception and all possible causes. People should be responsable. It's a matter to take seriusly. But you should also give the opportunity to the women to decide about their life, by keeping abortion legal. You're doing everyone a favor yet hurting noone.

 

Posted May 19, '12 at 6:51pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,746 posts

The babies that these people are killing is wrong, some people say that itâs not a person that itâs a bag of cells or a fetus and not really human being I have to disagree


Regardless of what you want to call it, there's a fact you can't get around.

It's the mother's body, and if she doesn't want to put up with a parasitic organism inside of her for 9 months that should be her choice.

Should there have been protection used? Probably.
Was it avoidable? Maybe.
Can she support a child if she keeps it? Maybe.
Will it potentially screw up her life? Very possible.
If you didn't want a kid would you go through 9 months and then childbirth? No.
If the mother did keep it, do we really need more kids in the system who have no parents? No.
Was it all completely avoidable and a moot point? Yes.
 

Posted May 19, '12 at 7:50pm

Ernie15

Ernie15

13,423 posts

Knight

How come (no pun intended) a man can... pleasure himself as much as he wants and kill billions of potential human beings without being controversial, but when a woman has just one potential human growing in her body, she is shunned if she decides to end the process?

Now I know that a human sperm cell has no thought process whatsoever making it seem like a very ignorant comparison on my part, but how much thinking do you really think a fetus does? Is it really going to care if you abort it? No, it isn't. Does it have a fair say in the decision on whether or not it gets aborted? No, it doesn't. The only person whose decision it is is the mother's. Not the father's, not the fetus's, and most definitely not the government's.

 

Posted May 19, '12 at 7:55pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,746 posts

Not the father's, not the fetus's, and most definitely not the government's.


Or the religious establishment's.

How come (no pun intended) a man can... pleasure himself as much as he wants and kill billions of potential human beings without being controversial,


In the Bible (I forget the name) is struck down by God for "spilling his seed on the ground." So...yeah.
 

Posted May 19, '12 at 8:31pm

Ernie15

Ernie15

13,423 posts

Knight

Or the religious establishment's.


Which should not, under any circumstances, correspond with the government.

In the Bible (I forget the name) is struck down by God for "spilling his seed on the ground." So...yeah.


But it isn't illegal if you don't do it in public, and even the laws preventing one from doing it in a public place aren't religious laws.
 

Posted May 19, '12 at 8:34pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,746 posts

But it isn't illegal if you don't do it in public, and even the laws preventing one from doing it in a public place aren't religious laws.


I know that, I was just giving an example of where it's forbidden in both instances of "killing possible life" whether it's a man or a woman.

Which should not, under any circumstances, correspond with the government.


But does unfortunately. Tis the reason all our presidents have been Christian and why gay marriage isn't already legal.
 

Posted May 19, '12 at 8:58pm

partydevil

partydevil

5,292 posts

i agree 100% whit hahiha.

a man can... pleasure himself as much as he wants and kill billions of potential human beings without being controversial, but when a woman has just one potential human growing in her body, she is shunned if she decides to end the process?


the only reason i can think of is (kinda out dated)
because a woman has just so much egg's in their body. while man are able to create sperm.

also does a woman not get shunned upon when she has her monthly period. (atleast not everywhere and not for the reason that her egg didn't became a baby.)

but when the process has started and the child is actualy starting to grow. then its a different story. then the fun part is over. and serius questions should be asked. like, "do i realy want this child?" if the answerd is no they should be able to abort the process going on in her body.

But does unfortunately. Tis the reason all our presidents have been Christian and why gay marriage isn't already legal.

off-topic but i'm just so happy we don't have either of these problems in my country. neither religion in our government or illegal gay marriage.
 
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