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Well I got about 30 minutes to kill.
The resulting death was due to septicemia made worse and spreading to the mother due to not receiving the abortion. Legally this is partly true that the laws on the books could have allowed for Savita to receive an abortion in this case, but it should also be noted that interpretation on a case by case basis of this sort left the Hospital unsure of acting. So in the end the law did play a role in her death.
Already noted above on the role the law played. This no request for termination sounds like a flat out lie to me.
The mention of the X case and how it opens the door to abortion in all nine month is misleading. This case seems to apply in cases where it would cost the mother her life to try and carry to term.
As for the UK statistics this gives.
This 200,000 abortions, this is a bit of an exaggeration, but rounding up it's not too far off. 2012 the numbers were around 189.5 thousand. 2007's numbers were 198,500 and 2006 was 193,700.
99% for social reasons. It would be more accurate to put scare quotes on the term social reasons. 98% of abortions in the UK are done under Ground C.
"Ground C is often referred to as âthe mental health clauseâ, and is perceived as the way in which doctors certify abortion âon requestâ, or âsocial abortionsâ. It is certainly the case that, despite the lack of a formal right to abortion in England and Wales, the abortion law is interpreted liberally to enable women to access abortion when they need it.
However, the construction of the British abortion law still presents a problem for women and doctors. It is not the case that the majority of women seeking abortion are necessarily at risk of damaging their mental health if they continue their pregnancy. But it is significant that, because of the law, women and their doctors have to indicate that this is the case.
It is also important to bear in mind that because Ground C is the most common legal ground for abortion, doctors may be likely to cite it in circumstances where other grounds might be more applicable. For example, if a diagnosis of fetal anomaly is made at a gestation of under 24 weeks, a woman or her doctors may feel more comfortable certifying a termination under the more common Ground C, rather than the Ground E clause.
In general, the national statistics do not, and cannot, reflect the real reasons why abortions are considered necessary. They can only reflect the grounds that are cited to make them lawful." -abortionreview.org
Abortions conducted up to 6 month for any reason I can't seem to fin any info suggesting this. Most abortions are carried out under 13 weeks gestation. With many of those being under the 10 week mark.
The left for dead part again can't find where thy are getting this from. While there are cases of such a thing happening in later term abortions actual statistics can be hard to come by. So my guess is they just used a number that sounded good here.
20% of unborn babies killed from abortion, this might be a real number but the wording is intended to make it sound horrific, ignoring any of the situations behind it. It's basically an emotional plea.
30% repeats, this number is actually higher at 32% of women indicating that had a previous abortion. The wording they use would seem to try and suggest these women are doing this constantly, while it could just be a second time.
Abortion never being medically necessary is an out right lie.
The 90% number is about right for cases where Down's Syndrome is detected. Of course this is indicating that the parents should be forced to have to deal with a child with severe mental problems for the rest of their life.
12 women dieing from abortion. If that is all there was in 2009 his is a pretty good record and a far improvement from the past. 2007 had 370 reported cases of complications. That's 2 out of every 1000 done. Overall this would seem to be worded to function as a scare tactic.