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ethan3300
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ethan3300
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Shepherd

Please debate here.

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NoNameC68
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NoNameC68
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Shepherd

Honestly, they'll both do the same thing in slightly different ways. They'll both hand out butt loads of money to businesses, the only difference being which businesses. They'll both keep military troops deployed in areas they shouldn't be, the difference being how they allocate troops and maybe who they go to war with. They'll both pass laws favoring big businesses, just different businesses and different ways to favor said businesses.

MageGrayWolf
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Honestly, they'll both do the same thing in slightly different ways. They'll both hand out butt loads of money to businesses, the only difference being which businesses. They'll both keep military troops deployed in areas they shouldn't be, the difference being how they allocate troops and maybe who they go to war with. They'll both pass laws favoring big businesses, just different businesses and different ways to favor said businesses.


You're probably right when it comes to money and business. As for troop deployment Obama's proposals would call for fewer troops. As for if that would be held to is another story. i do see other issues that should be looked at.

Which side has advocated separation of church and state and which hasn't?
Which side advocates equal rights fro homosexuals and which does not?
Which would likely give us better foreign standing?

We should also consider the behavior of the parties they are with as a whole.
SSTG
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Honestly, they'll both do the same thing in slightly different ways. They'll both hand out butt loads of money to businesses, the only difference being which businesses. They'll both keep military troops deployed in areas they shouldn't be, the difference being how they allocate troops and maybe who they go to war with. They'll both pass laws favoring big businesses, just different businesses and different ways to favor said businesses.

That's the way it is, rich people use corruption to get richer and It'll never change until people start voting for the ones who actually do the job instead of the candidates belonging to a party.
lolsauce
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lolsauce
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I really enjoyed watching the Al Smith dinner where Romney and Obama were able to make jokes about themselves personally and make fun of one another. It showed that they are both in fact, actual humans.

Kasic
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Kasic
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It showed that they are both in fact, actual humans.


...what did you expect them to be, robots?

Honestly, they'll both do the same thing in slightly different ways


For the most part, yeah. The difference being I don't agree with a lot of the things Romney says, and Obama going into 2nd term would be beneficial because he wouldn't have to pander in order to get re-elected and he's already got 4 years of experience.
Salvidian
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Salvidian
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It showed that they are both in fact, actual humans.


I nearly fell out of my chair when I read that. God, I hope you're joking.

...Explain please?
nichodemus
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Handing butt loads of money to businesses is called fiscal policy or bailouts. Don't post if all you think and comprehend about it is corruption and quick pocketing of cash.

SkywardStriker05
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I don't like either of them to be honest. Obama is nothing more than a spineless liar, and Romney can't seem to keep the same opinion on any issue. We really need to stop thinking that third parties are just a joke and focus more on them than the two parties who have completely monopolized political discourse.

waluigi
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waluigi
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I prefer Obama to Romney, though both are not great candidates. Obama at least has a set policy on what he talks about, while Romney's changes often, sometimes even in the same debate. Not only that, but he continuously shoots himself in the foot with stupid remarks (binder full of women). I just don't see Romney as being fit for being in office.

samdawghomie
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samdawghomie
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Why would have to choose between Obama or Romney when there are around 20 different candidates for president? The main thing that pisses me off is people act like the have to choose between the Republican or Democratic candidates, when this simply isn't true. If I could vote, mine would go towards Gary Johnson.

Or we could all just through logic and reasoning out the window and vote Vermin Supreme. xD

nichodemus
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Because not all people support or like third party candidates. Because such candidates often do not have the same reach as the Big Two. Because such candidates often hold fringe views. Not many people will vote for the Socialist
Party for instance.


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"And people who are so ignorant of what Obama had done specifically foe te middle classes and SMEs; condemning him for merely being a corporate puppet, do us a favor and read some newspapers or reports. Because the ignorance and biasness here is akin to a group of hysterical ostriches putting their heads into a large hole collectively.

Obama has signed off on two major tax cuts for middle-class families: the Making Work Pay tax credit that was part of the economic stimulus of 2009 and a temporary reduction in Social Security payroll taxes that went into effect in 2011.

As part of the stimulus, formally known as the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, single workers collected a $400 tax credit, and working couples got $800. The credit didnât come in the form of a check; it worked out so that most workers had about $400 less in federal income taxes withheld from their paychecks spread out over the entire year.

Or as a other example he has helped SMEs.

Eight of them were included in the stimulus, the Affordable Care Act (also known as the health care law), and the Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act (also known as the HIRE Act). Among the cuts were the exclusion of up to 75 percent of capital gains on key small business investments; a tax credit for the cost of health insurance for small business employees and new tax credits for hiring Americans out of work for at least two months.
       
Another eight cuts came via the Small Business Jobs Act, signed by Obama in September of 2010. These included: adding deductions for business cell phone use; creating a new deduction for health care costs for the self-employed; allowing greater deductions for business start-up expenses; eliminating taxes on all capital gains from key small business investments, and raising the small business expense limit to $500,000.
   
Three months later, the president signed a tax bill that raised the expense limit to 100 percent of small business new investments until the end of 2011. It also extended the elimination of capital gains taxes for small business investments through the end of 2012. (For more details, see our previous fact-check that provided at least 16 tax cuts to small businesses; we rated it Mostly True.)

So is it true say he's merely a WS stooge? No.

Apropos, good to see Romney returning to his more moderate self in the debate, and his immediate distancing from the disgraceful tea party senate hopefuls on the **** issue."

Source painfully typed out: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/sep/07/barack-obama/barack-obama-said-hes-cut-taxes-middle-class-famil/

christopher122
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christopher122
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I think Obama all the way. I don't understand why the USA finds it so hard to accept that universal healthcare should be available for everybody.

Blackbeltr0
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Blackbeltr0
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Jester

we did a student election and i ran it because i am on student council(long story) well Romney won 82% to 18%

LavaCake
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LavaCake
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Nomad

Personally, I am with Romney. But I think people should respect each others different choices and just focus on the people who are voting for the person you are voting for.

SSTG
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we did a student election and i ran it because i am on student council(long story) well Romney won 82% to 18%

Holy shift, I thought kids were more intelligent than their parents, I guess I was wrong. :O
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