now, why the american public {and alot of other [non-french] western public start to belive that hte french are cowerds who always surrender? for exmple, i just saw "that 70' show" {preety old, i know, but whatever i love it}. in one episode, red decline to sell there house to a french couple, because "they will give it to the first germans they will see". and there is more in almost every other USA shows.
does no one remmember Napoleon? in the first world war, they won the war. there army was the one who fought in all the frontiers. in the second world war, the 'surrendered' after them and the british armies as lost.
Fair enough. But how many of those troops came from those other countries versus the over 100,000 troops that Canada, the US, and Great Britain provided?
I think that shouldn't be taken in notice. Let's say there are 3 countries, let's name them A B C and Villian. A B and C are at war with Villian. So A sends out 100.000 troops (out of the 1000.000 Soldiers) country B send 60.000 (out of the 600.000 Soldiers) and country C sends out 2000 (out of 3000 Soldiers). Then country A had the strongest force but they didn't put as much effort in the war as country B of C. So numbers don't matter much.
I think that shouldn't be taken in notice. Let's say there are 3 countries, let's name them A B C and Villian. A B and C are at war with Villian. So A sends out 100.000 troops (out of the 1000.000 Soldiers) country B send 60.000 (out of the 600.000 Soldiers) and country C sends out 2000 (out of 3000 Soldiers). Then country A had the strongest force but they didn't put as much effort in the war as country B of C. So numbers don't matter much.
generally the more troops you commit, the more you contribute, governments generally don't want to be feeding and giving ammo and whatnot to troops that aren't doing anything.
generally the more troops you commit, the more you contribute
his point is that a small country can't contribute as much as a large country but can have more commitment. as a larger % of the countrys military is participating.
btw has any1 mentioned already that 50% of the usa failed their mission during d-day. ?
btw has any1 mentioned already that 50% of the usa failed their mission during d-day. ?
BTW did you know the Atlantic wall was one of the most fortified defensive positions during the war, if it wasn't for Hitler thinking the allies would land elsewhere, it would be near impenetrable
Just wanted to add that they did make a very decent defense against the germans in WW2, except tje Germans just went round it.
It really wasn't. They marched their troops deep into Belgium(along with the entirety of the British Expeditionary force) expecting the Germans to do the exact same thing they did in WWI. They assumed the Maginot line was impenetrable and that the Germans would not be able to take their tanks through the Ardennes. They did. The french were overconfident It wasn't a decent defence, it was greatly flawed.
BTW did you know the Atlantic wall was one of the most fortified defensive positions during the war, if it wasn't for Hitler thinking the allies would land elsewhere, it would be near impenetrable
I believe that the generals in command at Normandy wanted the defenses there and they even tried after it started, but they couldn't because Hitler was taking his nap.
I believe that the generals in command at Normandy wanted the defenses there and they even tried after it started, but they couldn't because Hitler was taking his nap.
what? it was because Hitler was adamant they would land elsewhere (i forget where) but they did try to make more defenses in Normandy, but they weren't finished/didn't have enough before the allies landed
what? it was because Hitler was adamant they would land elsewhere (i forget where) but they did try to make more defenses in Normandy, but they weren't finished/didn't have enough before the allies landed
The germans thought the attack would come at the narrowest part of the channel during good weather, not the widest during bad weather.
p.s. source for last comment, Hogan's Heroes d-day episode, although i thought i saw it somewhere else.
British fooled Germans into thinking that they will attack from somewhere else(can't remember from where) and Germans had moved considerable number of troops there.
British fooled Germans into thinking that they will attack from somewhere else(can't remember from where) and Germans had moved considerable number of troops there.
i forget the name too but the place was closer to england by like 50miles or somethong. Rommel actually told hitler to mover the panzer division to normandy but hitler refused. If we landed were the germans predicted us to we would have been annihlated to the last man. the defense there were stronger than anything that we could penetrate. The landing would have been worse than iwo jima
General De Gaulle was instrumental in conquering France, (I read somewhere he got the Vichy to surrender). Also, if the french hadn't wasted all there money on the Maginot line, and instead on more mobile forces, they might have done better.
i believe the queen of France was Belgian so after the king (and possibly the queen) were executed (losing them the war) Belgium came along and won the war, meaning that the rebels didn't win either meaning that they lost a war with themselves, well played France well play NOT
General De Gaulle was instrumental in conquering France, (I read somewhere he got the Vichy to surrender). Also, if the french hadn't wasted all there money on the Maginot line, and instead on more mobile forces, they might have done better.
the french may not have been good tacticians, but they had Espirit De corps, at least in WWI they did, charging machineguns wearing flash clothing...
i believe the queen of France was Belgian so after the king (and possibly the queen) were executed (losing them the war) Belgium came along and won the war, meaning that the rebels didn't win either meaning that they lost a war with themselves, well played France well play NOT
then they lost from the belgiums not from themself.
