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fireangle
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Nomad

What is really real and how do we know it?

This question has been bugging me for a while. So I figured I might as well ask.

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GhostOfMatrix
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Is this enough?

Minotaur55
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Real? What do you think is real? What do you think could be real? Why? What do you not think is real?

If you want to know what is real, you know it is real. If something doesn't feel real, then its not. Of course it is more detailed, but some people are not yet ready to be unplugged yet....

fireangle
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Nomad

Really? *slaps self in face* I should have known people were going to make Matrix quotes.

Is this enough?

No because your mind is easly tricked.

xeano321
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Farmer

How do you mean "What is real?"... My computer monitor seems real enough, my job seems real enough, and this thread seems real enough... Can you clarify for me?

Freakenstein
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What is really real and how do we know it?


What is real is anything able to be observed, whether through natural or scientific constructs. Which is everything. We know this, because this is what is shown when light reports to us any matter that it comes into contact. There are exceptions to this in which something we may not necessarily know is real but instead can be feasible. Whether aliens exist, another universe is present, what have you is all theoretical; we don't know if any of these are real, but they are feasible.
rayoflight3
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism

Nothing for sure other than my awareness.

But I consider anything that appeals to any of the five senses as "real" since I might as well. That doesn't mean, however, I consider some monster real because I see it in a movie. I just consider the image on the screen as real, if that makes sense. Also, as far as information goes, anything that has been rigorously proven. Otherwise, it's a theory. Unfortunately, many of the things I've been learning in chemistry and physics these days have been theories. Well thought-out theories, but theories nonetheless.

Freakenstein
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I agree. Dreams and imaginations are quite real.


Especially since they can be recorded, influenced, and constructed by psychological technologies.
R2D21999
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Your face!!! (Sorry couldn't resist)

But in all seriousness faces are real.

handlerfan
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Nomad

I consider fantasies and scientific theories to be real because they exist in my experience and at the same time not real because they have nothing to with what I experience with my senses.
I think that it's a paradox that a lie is real [The Queen is a man] because it exists and at the same time false because the verbal statement is at odds with the physical evidence.

HahiHa
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I think that it's a paradox that a lie is real [The Queen is a man] because it exists and at the same time false because the verbal statement is at odds with the physical evidence.

Not exactly. As I see it, a lie is a statement, and even though it is wrong, it is still as real a statement as any other. Whether the assumption of a statement is true or not, does not influence the reality of the statement itself, as 'real'=/='true' in this situation.
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Everything you can touch, feel, sense or imagine is real. Even if it's a hallucination, it's a real hallucination.

ProfessorOak
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Nomad

Everything you can touch, feel, sense or imagine is real.


That is rather contradictory. Your imagination is basically the ability to experience senses without having them actually happen. Such as imagining a hippo, the hippo isn't actually there, but you can "see" it. This does not mean it is real.

If what you're saying is true, a better question would be "what isn't real?".
HahiHa
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That is rather contradictory. Your imagination is basically the ability to experience senses without having them actually happen. Such as imagining a hippo, the hippo isn't actually there, but you can "see" it. This does not mean it is real.

The thought of it is real. Besides, many imaginations can actually trigger some receptors and stuff, for example watching a ballet show activates your own muscles too to a certain degree, without moving them.
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Something that you are imagining is real to you, but not to everyone else. Therefore most people would consider it not real, no matter how much you believe it is real.

If what you're saying is true, a better question would be "what isn't real?".

Technically, in my opinion, everything is real somewhere in a different dimension. The important thing is what is real in this dimension.
Salvidian
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The square root of -1 isn't real, but not by the same definition.

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