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it's been a few months since ive readed about it. i will seek it up and put a source in this topic tomorrow after work =)

Isn't the question about how much matter is in space pointless, since we don't know why when the big bang happened there wasn't an even amount of antimatter to cancel it out?

From this perspective there isn't any point on that surface that you could point to and say "we are expanding from there".

atm nasa sientists are observing a giant red "cloud" about 3000 light years away. (cloud being as big as 4 light years) that maybe is creating new stars (suns) if this seem to be true. then the "big bang" theory is not valid anymore.

Why can't you point inside the balloon?

I was thinking something along the lines of the slices of universes making up one giant loaf kinda explanation. ...Like how maybe one slice/universe hemorrhaged its energy into our universe, and matter/energy expanded outward from there. I admit my usage of the word &quotoint" was a erroneous. I mean that it is expanding from the area of origin. If all of the "stuff" in our universe is a product of that one event (or the summation of events that are represented as one event [big bang]) then there is a finite amount of mass and energy here in this slice/universe.

One thing that I'm a little interested in is why is it that it is only supposed to have happened once? If it would be a visible/observable phenomena, then why can't we see it happening somewhere else with our telescopes?

I remember an earlier discussion similar to this one where I was using the symbolism of light from a light bulb and someone threw a fit at me. I was told that there would be no light at such an event. Why is that so? I was under the mind set that for something to escape such a high gravity that it must have beyond immense energy to push through that. I was thinking something along the lines of plasma and radiation being emitted and spewed out b/c of a few pictures I've seen. Here is one such picture/model that shows what I'm talking about.


I found that from this site. Maybe the universe isn't quite like we imagined. Maybe it isn't as limited. Maybe we are constantly receiving and/or sending stuff to other universes through the giant black holes at the centers of galaxies. Or maybe they just recycle matter in our universe... wouldn't that maybe nullify the theory that the universe will just be a cold dark wasteland one day?

Lol... I doubt anyone but Mage will have the stomache to read aaaaaallllllll of that site. I read for like 30 minutes and was astonished by the fact I'd barely put a 1/10th dent in the volume of it...and I thought universe had no ending... I mean holy crap.

I don't know if the site is legit, but it does take a few stabs at a few generally accepted things... like expansion.

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...forgot about that. there ya go

Looking over that site I wouldn't trust this guy. Can someone find any information on this guy?

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I do believe that there is lifeform on another planet, but I doubt that they have designed "super weapons" and space ships that can travel through galaxies at the speed of light. I'm preferring to the way books and films describe them.
I don't believe that UFO:s come to pick people up and examine them.
But that there is lifeform on another planet is for me quite obvious.
They aren't necessarily standing on two legs like humans, they might not even have legs.

well my main purpose in going there was to get the picture to show my point... it may or may not've been that way... and it may or may not've produced light. If light is radiation, and radiation at some level was emitted from the "big bang" (possible black hole)... then there is a possibility of there having been light (maybe not from the visible spectrum) at the big bang. Up until now, I just didn't have the thoughts sorted out to defend my point. (referencing convo on holographic universe discussion)

I would not trust this guy, he seems to be making some huge assumptions while condemning others for exactly the same things. There is also the fact that particle accelerators are providing significant evidence for the big bang having occurred.

SCIENTIFIC ARTICLES. Journal-grade articles, published or rejected.

Could be real. could be not.

I think it's a hair from impossible that there are no life forms on any planet other than Earth. Really think about the entire universe, guys. Do you really think it's all just lifeless?

It would be hard to think that our planet is the only life sustaining one. Although until some real evidence comes out it will still remain a question.

I'll bet the first "evidence" of life in space will be bacteria knocked off of our own ships.