ForumsWEPR[nec]Christianity vs Atheism

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kiddslayer12
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I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.

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chess435
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That's probably right, but totally off-topic.

Ithikhar
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no its not off topic you'll see where I'm going with this...

And some scientists say that it may have been saltier back in the first millennium of time?(Do not however that I not acknoledging the evolutionist's view of how old the world is)

chess435
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And some scientists say that it may have been saltier back in the first millennium of time?(Do not however that I not acknoledging the evolutionist's view of how old the world is)


For the first 10 million milleniums of time, the earth didn't even exist. And it was molten for the next million millenia.
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@Ithikar salinity of the seas was put forward as one one of the firsrt ways to gauge the age of the world but it is very hard to work out how mych salt is entering the ocean each year and like chess435 says oceans were't around from the start.

Hailmurder
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Ave lucifer !!

samy
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I definitely agree with this. An interesting point to add is that all galaxies, except the ones really close to us, are all moving away from us. That means that the universe is expanding. Now, if you trace that expansion backwards, your can derive the


hm..a problem with this is, well the horizon problem (google it) second we have NO way to trace it back, if this were true do you know how many flucuations in the speed of this movement there would be? Second i did some research on radioisotope dating. Sorry but it's based completly on assumptions, and in fact some radiohalos (google again) support the idea of a worldwide flood.
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I believe Craze now. In 10 thousand years, 2 people, (Adam and Eve), made 4 babies, who made 4, and 4 for every 2. Yeah....And then, in between that time, a guy named Noah, got 2 of every single animal on the Earth, and put them on a ship. He built this huge ship with the help of the animals, obviously. Then, the flood came, and they were safe, however the rest of the world died. And then the animals went to heaven. (End of sarcasm)

Craze, do not put down a theory you do not understand at all. Evolution is not a monkey morphing into a human overnight. I explained before that was mutation but you probably didn't read that because you were thinking of how you should reword the argument you used twice before. Right? I'd be surprised you had enough time to read this far. Hats off to you.

Ithikhar
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@The_Masquerade, If that's so then where did the first single cell organisms come from? They had to come from somewhere, not nothing! Since evolutionists believe that it is impossible to create something out of nothing.

samy
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Craze, do not put down a theory you do not understand at all. Evolution is not a monkey morphing into a human overnight. I explained before that was mutation but you probably didn't read that because you were thinking of how you should reword the argument you used twice before. Right? I'd be surprised you had enough time to read this far. Hats off to you.


Hey guys! Lets begin debunking evolution ready??? Alright Masquerade don't put down a theory you don't understand at all. Mutations cannot create NEW DNA, big bumb in your theory is it not? Also how do you believe life started? Theres to evolutionary views im familiar with, fat coming out of the ocean and a spark creating life.
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Mutations can cause new DNA. Where are you getting your information, Samy?

As for the beggining of life, see this. Scroll down to Current Models.

samy
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Mutations can cause new DNA. Where are you getting your information, Samy?


Acording to that, no new DNA is formed the old is just lost or shufled.
iPC
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I might be misinterpreting you, Samy. How are insertions of extra base pairs not new DNA? (Second one on that list) Even if no data is formed, though, why does it matter? Shuffling the data has almost the same effect when there's only characters in the 'code'.

Ithikhar, I think you're confusing the Law of Conservation of Energy with the rearranging of atoms. When you make a peanut butter sandwich, you're not making new matter or energy. You're rearranging the existing matter and turning potential and kinetic energy into heat through friction. And it's not just Evolutionists who believe the Law of Conservation of Energy. It's pretty much every modern physicist. I hope I'm misunderstanding you.

cnhagenow
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So if you Atheist, what do you think will happen when you die?

Parsat
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Sorry, Samy, DNA most certainly changes with a mutation. I think it's important to define what type of evolution you're talking about. We have artificial selection, by which humans have bred animals and plants for thousands of years to produce better breeds. In this case, it is most definitely true. Unless you're arguing about natural selection, it would be different.

Now my personal gripe with evolution by mutation is that I believe it does not explain life processes in an adequate fashion. How is it that successive mutations chain together to create a complex process? Things left to random chance are invariably unsuccessful, because the probability of it happening is astronomical.

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Im not really religious but im not really an Atheist either. I Dont really care if you have a religion or not. or what your religion is but Atheism or Christianity im not a Christan i believe in the big bang and evolution because they make sense.

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