I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.
@ FallenSky If you don't think either side is right, FallenSky, then you don't have to interfere with other people's discussions.
Who said that Christianity is a cure for all our problems? Jesus himself said that life won't be easy. He also said that if we accept him as our Savior, then we will be able to rejoice during our times of trouble because we know that we have a place in heaven specially prepared for us. God is able to stop evil. There is a reason he doesn't wipe out the entire evil portion of the human population. He is merciful. He wants to give us all a chance to accept him so that everyone can go live with him.
According to his own words there (and some of my beliefs), Tillich doesn't know God. He may know about God, but when I say "know" in these situations, I mean "have a personal relationship with", not "know about".
Just being alive will tire you out with questions you can never elude. Are you planning on committing suicide or something?
You already made changes to your theories to explain that, but how much chance is there of a male and a female creature having the exact same mutations?
Quick point: It's possible to breed different species of dogs.
If the earth has been able to support life for as long as you evolutionists believe it has, the oceans would be WAY saltier than they are. The oceans get salty because of mineral deposits from rivers and rain returning to the ocean.
No, it wouldn't. You can't get something out of nothing; there's the same amount of salt in the Earth that there always has been.
To break this down, you first have to think: How long did it take for the rivers to form? And, how long did it take for the mountains to form that the rivers move down from? If Christians are basing the theory that salt levels can measure the Earth, they haven't accounted for the pollutants and other substances that have been discarded exponentially more frequently over the past two hundred years or so.
Question. How does Mercury exist? The sun has been burning away for a while. It is much smaller than what it would have been when Mercury was supposedly formed. In fact, the sun would have been so big that Mercury would be inside the sun!
Learn some astronomy, kid. When a yellow sun is burning, it grows smaller for billions of years, and then when it's finally fairly condensed, it explodes out into a Red Giant. Mercury's fine as it is, and has been for a while.
Which proves what? that an intelligent being was involved in purposefully selecting the animals he wanted.
Take it into context instead of attempting to be witty. Minor mutations do not strip a species of it's ability to breed with those of similar genetic structures. This makes fourtytwo's argument of the necessity for both a male and a female with the same mutations invalid.
Learn some astronomy, kid. When a yellow sun is burning, it grows smaller for billions of years, and then when it's finally fairly condensed, it explodes out into a Red Giant. Mercury's fine as it is, and has been for a while.
Learn some astronomy yourself dude. Stars don't spontaneously start as yellow suns.
Take it into context instead of attempting to be witty. Minor mutations do not strip a species of it's ability to breed with those of similar genetic structures. This makes fourtytwo's argument of the necessity for both a male and a female with the same mutations invalid.
I'm not being witty, I'm pointing out holes. Also notice that he said "species," and not a different animal.
Learn some astronomy yourself dude. Stars don't spontaneously start as yellow suns.
Context, context, context yet again. I never said that the Sun started it's life as such. Mercury was formed after the Sun, so there's no reason it should have burned up.
Formed after? Then how did it get into its little perfect orbit?
Have you actually read anything on natural selection is the past... oh... 200 years or so? Not only does the concept of natural selection seem intuitively correct, but your counterexample of one tiger eating every other animal in the world just doesn't work. Animals don't just kill for pleasure, for the most part, and to conjecture an animal that can somehow kill everything else on the planet is just ridiculous.
Have you been reading any posts? microevolution is obviously true, but that does not mean macroevolution is also true.
I'm sorry, I do not have time to answer every counter that comes up. I will do my best to summarize:
You say that apes and humans have the same ancestors? How are humans so much more superior then? Did they suddenly just take off ahead of the rest of the species on the earth? Why would this happen?
I say evolution comes down to belief because it takes a lot of faith to believe that the pure and perfect intricacies of our universe evolved just right over the past billions of years to create what we have now. When I discuss the chances of everything happening, I am trying to show how much faith it takes. Oh, btw, my definition of religion is "belief in the unseen/unprovable."
Who would want to delude themselves into serving a magical creature that demands your obedience. And if you don't obey this magical creature, then you are punished for all eternity. I would much rather live my life for its own meaning. I know what's going to happen to me when I die - I'm going to stop existing. At that point, there's nothing really more to worry about.
God does not demand our obedience. He deserves it. He made everything, so why not give Him the glory? John 3:16 says: "For God so loved the world, that he have his only begotten Son, so that whoever believes in Him will have everlasting life." If God is that good to us, should we not follow and obey him? I am sorry that you wish to live your own life; I will leave you to that. Good luck with it, pal.
Learn some astronomy, kid. When a yellow sun is burning, it grows smaller for billions of years, and then when it's finally fairly condensed, it explodes out into a Red Giant. Mercury's fine as it is, and has been for a while.
Mercury is fine "as it is" I'm talking about the "billions of years ago when you peeps say Mercury was formed" part.
Formed after? Then how did it get into its little perfect orbit?
Dust particles are attracted into orbit around the sun. These particles mash together, build up over time, planet is formed, etc. There's this thing called gravity-it happens in things with mass. When something is snagged into orbit, it tends to stay there, unless we're referring to faulty man-made satellites orbiting the Earth.
Mercury is fine "as it is" I'm talking about the "billions of years ago when you peeps say Mercury was formed" part.
Once again, Mercury was formed far after the sun would have been volatile enough to burn it up, or whatever you believe to have happened.
Sorry about that. I was thinking of something else. At the rate the sun is burning now, it would have been so big that nothing could survive on the earth more than ten-thousand years ago.
Dust particles are attracted into orbit around the sun. These particles mash together, build up over time, planet is formed, etc. There's this thing called gravity-it happens in things with mass. When something is snagged into orbit, it tends to stay there, unless we're referring to faulty man-made satellites orbiting the Earth.
So...why don't man-made satellites, along with everything else orbiting earth, clump to for a moon? How did the stuff that made Mercury not burn up in the sun by falling out of orbit? How did Mercury get in such a close orbit to the sun without burning up?
On top of this, the moon (the earth's) is technically not possible. How did it get there?
So...why don't man-made satellites, along with everything else orbiting earth, clump to for a moon?
Because they're launched into a specific trajectory, calculated specifically to stay in orbit with Earth. Plus, the gravitational masses of the satellites, in addition to their speed, is not enough to make them form into one physical being.
How did the stuff that made Mercury not burn up in the sun by falling out of orbit?
Maybe some did. Just because some failed to make it through the whole process, however, does not mean that the rest could not keep going.
How did Mercury get in such a close orbit to the sun without burning up?
Extremely dense atmosphere and cloud layers. The sun rays hardly penetrate to the surface, but instead the surface is super-heated due to a greenhouse effect.
On top of this, the moon (the earth's) is technically not possible. How did it get there?
Someone, I can't remember who, explained one of the more popular theories very well. When the Earth was still in it's molten-liquid state, a huge asteroid crashed into the planet. Some of this liquid-form of Earth was displaced into space due to the impact, while the asteroid melted into the Earth. The liquid became the moon. This also supports the fact that the moon is slowly spiraling out of it's orbit with the Earth.
