Another Conservative who sees things differently as usual.
Well of course. That's the foundation of debate, and the soul of one of our greatest Freedoms.
the criminals who own the Insurance companies.
They don't appreciate being told not to ABUSE their costumers.
Let me drop a shock on you: I agree. The insurance providers have raised prices far beyond any reasonable point, and the hoops that must be jumped through to get the "care" they provide is usually more of a pain that whatever is wrong with you. (I should know - I've been on the short end of that stick before). That said, I believe that healthcare is in dire need of some serious hangar time and a complete overhaul.
However, I do not believe that Obamacare (which, by the way, is a retread of something Hillary Clinton tried back in the 90's) is the required answer. For starters, it was rammed through without anyone knowing just what all was in it. Remember Nancy Pelosi's (in)famous remark, "We have to pass the bill to find out what's in it?" That right there was a huge warning sign. The only time people insist on you buying something sight unseen is when they're trying to put something over on you.
Then there's the fact that Obamacare increases government involvement in the healthcare industry many times over. This is bad for several reasons, not the least of which is the government's own track record. Given the ineptitude, infighting, and outright corruption that creates situations like the one we presently find ourselves afflicted with, do you really want the government playing puppet master to the people responsible for making sure your body continues to operate properly? Ronald Reagan nailed it when he said, "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
Then too there is the fact that the healthcare industry, no matter how immense, is comprised of companies that ultimately are privately owned. By this, I mean they are owned by regular citizens, not by the government. Obamacare renders these companies subject to governmental control, which is one of the principle symptoms, and goals, of
Socialism. This flies in the face of the free-market system that is one of the cornerstones of the American system. Make no mistake, standards are necessary, but outright control by the government will not create fair, workable standards but rather corrupt the whole system even more than it already is.
scream Socialism
See above links. Socialism, defined, includes government control of industry and business.
so they try to sabotage everything.
Remind me, who's doing the sabotaging here? Harry Reid and company are the ones who refused all the offered compromises, including the ones that
funded Obamacare. If anything, the Republicans are the ones trying to reach an agreement with the Left. They've reached across the aisle, and frankly I think they reached too far, by offering the funding for something they find abhorrent. Those compromises would have given the Democrats what they were after; the only reason they refused was because they want to make this a big political victory by crushing the Republicans so they can have something to crow about.
they decided they don't want it
The Republicans aren't the only ones who don't want Obamacare. The
Labor Unions, formerly ardent supporters of Obamacare, have turned against it as they discover its harmful effects. Also, an increasing number of
States are rejecting the bill, even at the expense of their federal funding. At this rate, by the time Obamacare reaches full implementation the number of people actually accepting it may be a minority.
anti-American BS
Really? I don't see insurance companies burning American flags or attacking U.S. Embassies.
Debate, discussion, and even disagreement form one of the main pillars of the American design. Just because someone holds a differing opinion does not automatically make them anti-American.
and all the right wing nuts follow like Lemmings, strait to their demise. Unlike Lemmings, they don't die though, that's unfortunate.
What a wonderfully mature and intelligent comment! I'm so very glad that you chose to enrich this discussion with your pithy and profound statement.
