As a male, I can't say I am very educated about feminism, maybe I could be enlightened by somebody. But there is something I have noticed is happening that is very wrong.
I am all for equality for women, and womens rights, but feminism seems to be getting used in the wrong way, from what I've seen. In jobs where the employer believes there are not enough women, women are being targeted to be hired. THe problem is, these women are being hired over higher qualified men, because they are female. Maybe women are not in that job because they don't want to be. This practice of hiring women over men is exactly the opposite of equality. And results in INequality, does it not?
I don't claim to know alot about feminism, but I do know when I see something that is wrong.
Here's the problem with feminism - women want to be PAID like a man but TREATED like a woman. If you want equality, you can have it. But don't pull this BS where there's a double standard.
What you've pointed out in the above there is known as positive discrimination and is generally a reaction to some kind of social reform or backlash.
What I'm concerned about with regard to the feminist movement is the post-feminist branches: the really misandric one, and the 'trash-girl' post-feminism which is somewhat self-destructive.
I am too tired to post in detail on this but will come back later, maybe.
Not to be racists or anything, but some companies have to choose the Hispanic over the Americans, because it's law, take a look at WoW's support company.
It's more to be exact, discrimiantion. Put in by law to supposedly 'quicken up' the rate at which people will be equal in different kinds of jobs.
But that is not the only example. In schools, and in life, women are prefered. E.g. In a school, a girl kicks a guy in his balls, and he slaps her for it. She tells a teacher, he gets a 'warning', and later in life, he is unable to have children.
Punch a girl in the breasts, and somehow, they get breast cancer. This is a myth. Kick a guy in his most sensitive area, and he can lose the ability to have a biological child of his own. Fact.
The girl is already given more status than a guy, and is 'more important' for some reason.
You always hear of 'Wife Abusers' but never 'Husband Abusers' Women rule, guys drool, apparently.
I think that both genders have distinct advantages over each other, but some of them are more obvious than others.
I think that in a job situation whoever is the most qualified to do the job should have it. Male or Female. Although, there are a lot of instances where the male is more qualified. I forget who did this experiment, but some university did an experiment where basically, they took a fat, highly qualified guy and a beautiful female supermodel that knew next to nothing about math or economics and set them both up to have an interview to be an accountant. Surprise, the supermodel got the job and was fired 4 days later.
The earliest forms of feminism, "roto-feminism" if you will, were simply focused on having women not being viewed as baby making machines. Unfortunately, this view still defines most women. The problem with classical feminism (and post-modernist feminism helps redefine this) is that it still compels women to act in a certain way because they're women. So, using the example of child birth, a classical feminist would argue the point to make women who actually want to have children feel bad for thinking that way. Clearly this is not what feminism should be striving for, and the more post-modern feminists have recognized this and have tried to leave things up to the woman to decide - as long as she is involved in the decision making process. The efforts to increase company diversity on all accounts are, as Strop mentioned, simply repercussions of poorly managed social reform. The problem with movements like feminism, or even the civil rights movements, are that the social reform is forced upon a society that never actually learns the proper motivations for certain behaviors - they are simply going through the motions. That's why there is still rampant racism in the United States even though all people are equal in the eyes of the law. The society itself hasn't had a chance to "unlearn" old bad habits - at least as a whole. These social reforms are necessary (I think) to affect the change needed in the views of most people about what it truly means to be "equal."
The society itself hasn't had a chance to "unlearn" old bad habits - at least as a whole.
Do you ever think that society will "unlearn" these old habits? There are always people who never change their ideas and beliefs, and they probably never will.
There is nothing wrong with feminism. It is a totaly natural thing, if girls want to abuse their body to guys then let them. It is their fault for later things that happen.
I can see why people think that it's a bad thing because their GF shows off to much or act's weird around other guys but it's just a way of people.
There is nothing wrong with feminism. It is a totaly natural thing, if girls want to abuse their body to guys then let them. It is their fault for later things that happen.I can see why people think that it's a bad thing because their GF shows off to much or act's weird around other guys but it's just a way of people.
rofl Feminism isn't a girl trying to show off herself, it is woman trying to get equal rights.
Do you ever think that society will "unlearn" these old habits? There are always people who never change their ideas and beliefs, and they probably never will.
This is why it is a long process. You have to wait for new generations to emerge and the old ones to, well... die! There will still certainly be people who oppose these ideologies, but they will be a minority and will not reflect "societal intent."
I think that women already have equal rights. The ones who use Feminism as an excuse are just sore losers XD
Equal rights under the law is just one part of our idea of "equality." Professionally and athletically, women get far less respect for their achievements (and often far less compensation).
Professionally and athletically, women get far less respect for their achievements (and often far less compensation).
I think in the prffessional world women have overcomeosme problems but not others. They are now able to get jobs they previously wouldnt have been able to in long ago times. Bt ow they face other problems such as discrimination in the workoplace. Sexul harrassment and just being called the skirts and that kind of stuff. Howevr i think athletically the reason they get less respect is because their male couter parts are biologically stronger and so hey are more popular depending on the sport. I mean with tennis they now get paid the same as men even though they play less sets. Is this right or do they play proportianately the right amount of time.
Equal rights under the law is just one part of our idea of "equality." Professionally and athletically, women get far less respect for their achievements (and often far less compensation).
When it comes to equalality in the professional world the harassment of women is a big thing. I read an article awhile ago about how women were being harassed in the locker room of a Vancouver fire department. The solution that was thought up: Uni-sex underwear! Exuse me? Uni-sex underwear wont fix anything, what needs to be fixed is the attitudes of the male firefighters in that department.
When it comes to pay difference between men and women, this is debatable. Some people say that women are payed only 75%, or some other percentage, of what men are. But if an employer could hire 4 women for the price of 3 women, why would he hire men at all? Even if he was sexist, he still wouldn't survive in business if all his competitiors were paying their employees 25% less.
