There is no need to sacrafice instead of doing this do good works, the god will be more happy by doing this.
Citation, please. If you are going to assert that a god would prefer one kind of worship over another, you should at least have this corroborated by holy scripture (if not from the booming voice of God himself) and present it as a searchable reference. Otherwise, your claim is baseless.
[quote]You were just decrying humanity as immoral. Now you're using it to assert morality?
Please explain...[/quote]
You and 19912 were both saying that humans are corrupt and immoral. Why would your humanity (the very thing that makes you human) make you different? It makes no sense.
And recheck your question because you have asked me "I'm asking you why you believe them to be wrong..
Without omitting the context, "them" refers to the "events you're concerned with", not the people involved.
"The word "Humanity" has no use by itself." :- Really?
Yes, really.
It is rational counter-argument because [...]
No. "This also comes in "Humanity"" is not a rational argument. As near as I can tell, it is not even an argument. The argument is this part here:
[...] it is happening world-wide and can be dangerous if we don't take it seriously. Not only to the humans but every living creature on Earth.
really? Do you really think that? just every religion is not known by you people. The Religion also a unknown religion also called Hindu think there is a also religion which The Sheep's are killed.
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
Really think again we are really not doing this for god but we are doing this for ourselves we kill our own species and making our existence to disperser.....
Which is clearly something an ALL SEEING ALL POWERFUL god should have been able to prevent if he didn't want it. Are you suggesting that God should not be allowed to do what He sees fit?????
Which is clearly something an ALL SEEING ALL POWERFUL god should have been able to prevent if he didn't want it. Are you suggesting that God should not be allowed to do what He sees fit?????
you are saying he is someone who will prevent it for himself? are you saying he is someone that would kill an Animal is good? so tell me why someone who kills a human is wrong then?
you are saying he is someone who will prevent it for himself?
2 Not quite. If we assume that God is an all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-creating supreme being, we must also concede that everything he created is doing what he wants it to do. Of course, if he did find something he wanted to change, why wouldn't he change it?
are you saying he is someone that would kill an Animal is good?
3 No. I'm saying it's irrational to assume that God is strictly opposed to things he intentionally causes.
so tell me why someone who kills a human is wrong then?
4 No. I'm not the one ranting about immorality. I don't need to explain your preconceived notions for you.
Not quite. If we assume that God is an all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-creating supreme being, we must also concede that everything he created is doing what he wants it to do. Of course, if he did find something he wanted to change, why wouldn't he change it?
you are not understanding my topic i am saying if we kill a animal it will be a tale for a time being just take DODO as eg.
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1 You didn't answer the question.
you are saying he is someone who will prevent it for himself?
2 Not quite. If we assume that God is an all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-creating supreme being, we must also concede that everything he created is doing what he wants it to do. Of course, if he did find something he wanted to change, why wouldn't he change it?
are you saying he is someone that would kill an Animal is good?
3[quote] No. I'm saying it's irrational to assume that God is strictly opposed to things he intentionally causes.
so tell why in the book of Hindu's Bhagwat Gita it is written that if someone kills a living soul he would be punished?
you are not understanding my topic i am saying if we kill a animal it will be a tale for a time being just take DODO as eg.
On the contrary, you are not understanding my analysis. Let me break it down into this nifty questionnaire format:
1 Is God capable of doing whatever He chooses? [yes] [no] 2 Does God know everything, including the future? [yes] [no] 3 Did God create humans according to His wishes? [yes] [no]
If you answered "yes" to all three, your god is completely fine with everything that is happening. In fact, He made it this way on purpose.
If you answered "yes" to 1 and 2, but not 3, your god has no jurisdiction over humans, anyway.
1 Is God capable of doing whatever He chooses? [yes] [no] 2 Does God know everything, including the future? [yes] [no] 3 Did God create humans according to His wishes? [yes] [no]
Citation, please. If you are going to assert that a god would prefer one kind of worship over another, you should at least have this corroborated by holy scripture (if not from the booming voice of God himself) and present it as a searchable reference. Otherwise, your claim is baseless.
See, god have send us on Earth but now we are sacraficing of him so what is the use of it? as I have stated before some people are superstitious. The god have send us to sacrafice for him? Instead of doing this we can help each other and I believe the god will be more happy by watching it. But you still want an evidence, its a common logic. Now days education is the biggest problem in some places and I believe because of it some people have become superstitious and sacrificing to god. Also in some places we kill animals because of it. And most important thing my claim is not baseless.
You and 19912 were both saying that humans are corrupt and immoral. Why would your humanity (the very thing that makes you human) make you different? It makes no sense.
When I say humans are immoral or currupt? I only said the humans have to change.
Without omitting the context, "them" refers to the "events you're concerned with", not the people involved.
You should clearfy the term "them" because it also refers to the people so its confusing.
No. "This also comes in "Humanity"" is not a rational argument. As near as I can tell, it is not even an argument.
I was answering to your this question "Why do you insist upon invoking it as though it were a rational counter-argument?".
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
Again explain but only my comment.
Does God know everything, including the future?
Future changes constantly means according to the events occure in the life. In other words it is not fixed.
does God love us?
Of course, we all loved our created things same applies to the god.
What was His motive for afflicting such a plague upon the Earth?
[...] now we are sacraficing of him so what is the use of it?
In what way are we currently sacrificing Him?
Instead of doing this we can help each other and I believe the god will be more happy by watching it. But you still want an evidence, its a common logic. Now days education is the biggest problem in some places and I believe because of it some people have become superstitious and sacrificing to god.
That is not evidence. Evidence would explain why you believe that God would prefer cooperation over sacrifice.
And most important thing my claim is not baseless.
Actually, it is, because it has no basis at all. In fact, it is an excellent example for those who want to learn how to recognize baseless claims.
When I say humans are immoral or currupt? I only said the humans have to change.
Here: "[...] we are doing misuse of powers given us by the god [...]" "First of all by doing this they will destroy there own race and other races too, that's why I believe what they are doing is wrong."
You are saying that humans are abusing their powers (corruption) and committing misdeeds (immorality). I think the problem here is that you are using an unworkable definition of humanity. You claim that a significant portion of the human species has "no humanity left", as though humanity were some mysterious ideal that is altogether separate from humans. Yet, humanity is the state of being human.
You should clearfy the term "them" because it also refers to the people so its confusing.
I'm sorry, but I am not skilled in teaching the nuances of the English language.
I was answering to your this question "Why do you insist upon invoking it as though it were a rational counter-argument?".
Yes, and your answer was not rational either.
Future changes constantly means according to the events occure in the life. In other words it is not fixed.
No. The future does not change at all. It is not altered by previous events; it is defined by them. If you are suggesting that future events cannot be known until they happen, you are implying that God does not know everything. Is this what you believe?
That is not evidence. Evidence would explain why you believe that God would prefer cooperation over sacrifice.
no we are not saying something which is directly belonging to god i am directly saying that god will be more happy if we doesn't make sacrifices as they make it to make god happy......
no we are not saying something which is directly belonging to god i am directly saying that god will be more happy if we doesn't make sacrifices as they make it to make god happy......
I am saying that this is not true, and I have as much justification as you do unless you can come up with a rational explanation for your assertion.
