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R1a2z3e4
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Humans are the most intelligent species in the world, don't you agree ?
You and me are the best creatures made by the god, don't you agree ?

The god given us many things because he hope the humans I have created will go to the earth and will do many good things !

But see what is going on today's world, we are doing misuse of powers given us by the god, don't you agree ?

By seeing this a question is arsing in my mind = Is this the end of Humanity ?

What you think about this ? Can we prevent this ?

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EmperorPalpatine
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i am directly saying that god will be more happy if we doesn't make sacrifices

Explain Leviticus 1. It specifically explains how to sacrifice animals and that God gets pleasure from smelling it.
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Explain Leviticus 1. It specifically explains how to sacrifice animals and that God gets pleasure from smelling it.

take yourself in that place and think of a man smelling it?
FishPreferred
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take yourself in that place and think of a man smelling it?


This is meaningless nonsense. He's telling you that this holy text explicitly states that God wants to receive sacrifices.
19912
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you can come up with a rational explanation for your assertion.

???
This is meaningless nonsense. He's telling you that this holy text explicitly states that God wants to receive sacrifices.

Hello....then why this is said?
Explain Leviticus 1. It specifically explains how to sacrifice animals and that God gets pleasure from smelling it.
pangtongshu
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Hello....then why this is said?


Because it states how god wants to receive sacrifices and enjoys receiving them.

I'm not getting the difficulties here?
FishPreferred
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[Unless] [quote]you can come up with a rational explanation for your assertion.


??? [/quote]

You said that God would be happier without sacrifices. I said that God would not be happier without sacrifices. Your claim is not any more justified than mine.

If you want to justify your claim, you must have a rational explanation.
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In Genesis he ask for a sacrefice from Kein and Evel. The two first born peoples on earth by the bible, for a sacrefice from there growings. One own a herd abd the other is a farmer. Quote : "And god said to Kein and evel; Bring me a sacrefice" . You cant read it in another way.

Judaisem - the meat which was "sacreficed" in the Holy temple was given to the Priest class. Each mounth another Family of "Lavis" (the priests and clerks tribe) attended the Holy temple, and lived from these sacrefices.
In reality, it was a clever way to take taxes and keeping the peoples happy for doing so. Its the perfect crime.

And for last: the altar thing is not for the Jewish god but for Baal, the eastern and north african god we all know and love.
And in ancient Judaism, the consept of war was that its the fury of god. So yea, you can call it Ritualic, but i think of it more as a harsh fighting code. If they threat you directly (not all nations are lawd to be razed, only a spesific group), you need to vanquish them.

19912
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You said that God would be happier without sacrifices. I said that God would not be happier without sacrifices. Your claim is not any more justified than mine.

If you want to justify your claim, you must have a rational explanation

See then....

And watch this link..
[url=http://biblehub.com/psalms/51-16.htm]
You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings.

New Living Translation
You do not desire a sacrifice, or I would offer one. You do not want a burnt offering.

English Standard Version
For you will not delight in sacrifice, or I would give it; you will not be pleased with a burnt offering.

New American Standard Bible
For You do not delight in sacrifice, otherwise I would give it; You are not pleased with burnt offering.
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sorry but this is the link-
http://biblehub.com/psalms/51-16.htm

http://biblehub.com/psalms/51-16.htm

FishPreferred
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And watch this link..
[url=http://biblehub.com/psalms/51-16.htm]
You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings.

New Living Translation
You do not desire a sacrifice, or I would offer one. You do not want a burnt offering.

English Standard Version
For you will not delight in sacrifice, or I would give it; you will not be pleased with a burnt offering.

New American Standard Bible
For You do not delight in sacrifice, otherwise I would give it; You are not pleased with burnt offering.


I asked for an explanation, and instead you gave me four nearly identical translations of the same line...This will not do. I will have to conclude that you have no explanation and that your claim is simply an expression of your preferred world-view.

Now, back to the other topic:

Do you believe that God knows everything?

Do you believe that God can do whatever He wants to do?
EmperorPalpatine
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And watch this link..
[url=http://biblehub.com/psalms/51-16.htm]



It looks like you didn't keep reading.

Psalms 51:18-19 (NIV) May it please you to prosper Zion,
to build up the walls of Jerusalem.
Then you will delight in the sacrifices of the righteous,
in burnt offerings offered whole;
then bulls will be offered on your altar.
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I asked for an explanation, and instead you gave me four nearly identical translations of the same line...This will not do. I will have to conclude that you have no explanation and that your claim is simply an expression of your preferred world-view.

hello i never gave you translation of same line i just opposed your statements by saying the opposite of your statements
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Psalms 51:18-19 (NIV) May it please you to prosper Zion,
to build up the walls of Jerusalem.
Then you will delight in the sacrifices of the righteous,
in burnt offerings offered whole;
then bulls will be offered on your altar.

it is said in oppose of god liking sacrifices
R1a2z3e4
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What was His motive for afflicting such a plague upon the Earth?


As I said before "Role playing Game" but to be precise I don't know the answer for this question may be we should ask to the god afterwards.

In what way are we currently sacrificing Him?


By killing animals in special occasions. For example - New year, any festival etc. It is happening in some parts of the world.
Yes, the goverment is taking action to prevent it but still some are doing it in an illegal way.

That is not evidence. Evidence would explain why you believe that God would prefer cooperation over sacrifice.


Why we are sent in this world? for sacrificing ourselves? or to do good works.
We can say that the peoples who are sacrificing themselves for the god are almost all superstitious peoples who thinks that if we sacrifice to the god we will go to heaven etc.

Actually, it is, because it has no basis at all. In fact, it is an excellent example for those who want to learn how to recognize baseless claims.


How you can say my claim is baseless? I have given an example "Superstitiousness".

You are saying that humans are abusing their powers (corruption) and committing misdeeds (immorality). I think the problem here is that you are using an unworkable definition of humanity. You claim that a significant portion of the human species has "no humanity left", as though humanity were some mysterious ideal that is altogether separate from humans. Yet, humanity is the state of being human.


No, I am saying it for those people who really have no humanity left in them.

Yes, and your answer was not rational either.


How?

No. The future does not change at all. It is not altered by previous events; it is defined by them. If you are suggesting that future events cannot be known until they happen, you are implying that God does not know everything. Is this what you believe?


We cannot say it is pre-predicated anything can happen anytime but at the same time some events are fixed. "A little change can be dangerous in the future."
pangtongshu
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hello i never gave you translation of same line i just opposed your statements by saying the opposite of your statements


And in doing so you did nothing more but attempt a Red Herring and ignored the quote brought up showing Yahweh taking pleasure from sacrifices

Why we are sent in this world? for sacrificing ourselves? or to do good works.


Still not evidence he is asking for. In fact, it would just further be a question requiring such evidence.
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