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I haven't been on much lately so I decided I would post my own topic. I don't believe this topic has been done recently since I checked the stickied thread with topics. I will state my reasons on why I believe the death penalty should be put in place for all murderers. It is fine if you disagree but let's make this a good and clean debate. Don't just say "You are wrong." Alright, well here I go.

1) I will start off by saying that the death penalty (that is only for mass murderers) was recently stopped because they said the method was too painful. So, someone who brutally murdered one or more people should die besides feeling the same pain? Where is the justice in that? I believe that you should get what you give. If you do good deeds, then you should be rewarded nicely. If you kill someone, you should be killed.

2) The next part I will go into is jail. Oh yes, we make jail seem like the worst place possible. Bed, toilet, workout room, safety, and 3 square meals per day. Now, safety is different in different jails. I know that so it can't exactly be supported. However, why do we give them a workout room or some sort of a place to lift weights? I am curious to this. Okay, so we are making rapists stronger and making it easier for them to rape when they get out. Why do they need 3 square meals per day? I went to a soup kitchen last year and I almost cried at how many homeless walked in because they didn't have anything to eat. We are treating criminals better than people who never harmed anyone. Where is the justice in that? Don't tell me the homeless made bad choices because it can happen to anyone. Also, bad choices? What about the person who chose to kill someone? I think that angers me the most. Really, jail looks like heaven to some people so they hurt someone else.

3) I will go into the issue of money. It costs us around $30,000 per year to take care of ONE convict. Now, I am just supporting the death penalty for murderers. The people who never harmed anyone are taking care of people who killed other people. What is wrong with this picture? We are taking care of them instead of the poor who never hurt people. That money could go to so many good issues like cures and health care. I will say the green movement just for you, Carlie. Anyways, now you will say it costs too much to use the death penalty. I think we should kill the murderer the exact same way the murderer killed someone else. This leads me into my next point.

4) Can you imagine going through the pain of being killed? Let's take it through the victim's point of view. Can you imagine the torture of what happened before you died? The pain would be terrible if the murderer stabbed the victim 100 times. I know the victim would die before that but it shows a point. That is why I believe the murderer should be killed the same way. Let them feel what it is like to go through that. Now, let's take it through the family's point of view. Your relative was just murdered. Now, be honest, what would you like to happen to the person that killed them? You would most likely want them dead which is why the death penalty should be put in place.

5) I know we can't be 100% sure of who the murderer was. However, DNA is 99.99% so very close. Also, why would their DNA even be on the victim or around the scene of the crime? They most likely had something to do with it. That makes them eligible to receive the death penalty. Also, the people we are not sure of can be put in jail. Jails are over filling so criminals are being released earlier then their original sentences. I know this because my aunt was released about a year before her sentence was completely served.

I will state my final words. I want to make it even more clear that the death penalty should only be given to murderers. The other criminals can be put in jail. The murderer should feel the same pain the victim did. Rotting in jail is a bunch of bull. Yes, to some it is crap while it is heaven to others. Why are we paying for murderers to have a life with food and beds? You would want the murderer of your family member dead. You would not just say they can go to jail. DNA is not exact but it is only .01% possibly wrong. That is pretty darn good. You may say two wrongs don't make a right but that makes no sense at all. So, if someone cheats on a test and is given a failing grade for cheating...would you say that then? The same applies to the death penalty. The death penalty is simply a consequence for their actions.

I would love to debate someone on this issue but please read my whole post before posting. It makes the debate more enjoyable if you post your feelings to each of my points and then state your final words. Thanks and also keep it on topic.

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TrainJumpa
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As far as I know they are already overcrowded.


1. Some, NOT ALL, but some are, and that's a horrible thing.

2. Exactly!We don't need to pay to keep these people alive, America's economy has been spinning down the toilet and still is so we don't need to pay to keep them alive for nothing.
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we don't need to pay to keep them alive for nothing.

The Death penalty actually costs the state more money than life imprisonment Imprisonment.
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The death penalty should be replaced with a sentence of life without parole and restitution to the victimâs estate.
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The Death penalty actually costs the state more money than life imprisonment Imprisonment.


Didn't know that, interesting. And there's another pro: They could work while they are in prison.
TrainJumpa
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I'll hand it to you Goumas, you've done your homework. but...

Why I support the death penalty.

1. Morale reason, on every posted I think I listed on or a few.
2. Can't believe everything you read, 2 links isn't solid research, but it's a good start.
3. Some of these are psychopaths who can't be healed and in some cases if we tried, it could take more time, and more money, sometimes you have to give up on people kid, it's sad but it has to be done.
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5) it's irrevocable, this means that there is a chance that an innocent person will be executed instead of the criminal.


You sure were making a big deal about those pre-execution processes, those year long ones.
TrainJumpa
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6. It is not cruel. It is a quick painless method. I think I have a post on 19 for that.

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Morale reason

I respect it.
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Some of these are psychopaths who can't be healed

Sadly this is true, but nonetheless I think we should try.
lethal injection you don't feel a thing, allergy shots are more painful.

The execution by lethal injection is not painless.
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We should try to reform criminals. No person should be given the power to control someone's death, and the death penaltyis government sanctioned murder.

TrainJumpa
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We should try to reform criminals.


Yes we should, but sadly we can't and it costs too much money.

And there's another pro: They could work while they are in prison.


They don't let mass-murders and other psychos work at fear they can kill another worker/guard or escape.

And Goumas, the link you posted for lethal injection said it is because they were not properly sedated. And even if it isn't painless, I highly doubt the murders were, and the emotional pain on the friends and families were 100% painful, sorry that there was a slight pain in the execution.(Note the sarcasm on the "apology".)
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Death Penalty's great, isn't it? It's a petty that some innocent people have been convicted to die via gas chamber, but it is otherwise a magnificent thing. Convicted paedophile and child killer? Send him in for a lethal injection! Gotta love the justice of it, don't cha? Why let a sick **** like that live? That's not understandable whatsoever. Therefore it is best to die via lethal injection rather than him getting ***** to death in jail or stabbed in the eye with a sharpened toothbrush handle. Or have the bottom of a cup knocked out, pin him down with four or more guys, place it against his chest. Pour some matches in and throw a lit one in. Burn a hole in that sick mother****er's chest! Or get beaten to death by a guard and his baton. Or allow him to be killed. Therefore in certain circumstances it is better to be killed!

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