I haven't been on much lately so I decided I would post my own topic. I don't believe this topic has been done recently since I checked the stickied thread with topics. I will state my reasons on why I believe the death penalty should be put in place for all murderers. It is fine if you disagree but let's make this a good and clean debate. Don't just say "You are wrong." Alright, well here I go.
1) I will start off by saying that the death penalty (that is only for mass murderers) was recently stopped because they said the method was too painful. So, someone who brutally murdered one or more people should die besides feeling the same pain? Where is the justice in that? I believe that you should get what you give. If you do good deeds, then you should be rewarded nicely. If you kill someone, you should be killed.
2) The next part I will go into is jail. Oh yes, we make jail seem like the worst place possible. Bed, toilet, workout room, safety, and 3 square meals per day. Now, safety is different in different jails. I know that so it can't exactly be supported. However, why do we give them a workout room or some sort of a place to lift weights? I am curious to this. Okay, so we are making rapists stronger and making it easier for them to rape when they get out. Why do they need 3 square meals per day? I went to a soup kitchen last year and I almost cried at how many homeless walked in because they didn't have anything to eat. We are treating criminals better than people who never harmed anyone. Where is the justice in that? Don't tell me the homeless made bad choices because it can happen to anyone. Also, bad choices? What about the person who chose to kill someone? I think that angers me the most. Really, jail looks like heaven to some people so they hurt someone else.
3) I will go into the issue of money. It costs us around $30,000 per year to take care of ONE convict. Now, I am just supporting the death penalty for murderers. The people who never harmed anyone are taking care of people who killed other people. What is wrong with this picture? We are taking care of them instead of the poor who never hurt people. That money could go to so many good issues like cures and health care. I will say the green movement just for you, Carlie. Anyways, now you will say it costs too much to use the death penalty. I think we should kill the murderer the exact same way the murderer killed someone else. This leads me into my next point.
4) Can you imagine going through the pain of being killed? Let's take it through the victim's point of view. Can you imagine the torture of what happened before you died? The pain would be terrible if the murderer stabbed the victim 100 times. I know the victim would die before that but it shows a point. That is why I believe the murderer should be killed the same way. Let them feel what it is like to go through that. Now, let's take it through the family's point of view. Your relative was just murdered. Now, be honest, what would you like to happen to the person that killed them? You would most likely want them dead which is why the death penalty should be put in place.
5) I know we can't be 100% sure of who the murderer was. However, DNA is 99.99% so very close. Also, why would their DNA even be on the victim or around the scene of the crime? They most likely had something to do with it. That makes them eligible to receive the death penalty. Also, the people we are not sure of can be put in jail. Jails are over filling so criminals are being released earlier then their original sentences. I know this because my aunt was released about a year before her sentence was completely served.
I will state my final words. I want to make it even more clear that the death penalty should only be given to murderers. The other criminals can be put in jail. The murderer should feel the same pain the victim did. Rotting in jail is a bunch of bull. Yes, to some it is crap while it is heaven to others. Why are we paying for murderers to have a life with food and beds? You would want the murderer of your family member dead. You would not just say they can go to jail. DNA is not exact but it is only .01% possibly wrong. That is pretty darn good. You may say two wrongs don't make a right but that makes no sense at all. So, if someone cheats on a test and is given a failing grade for cheating...would you say that then? The same applies to the death penalty. The death penalty is simply a consequence for their actions.
I would love to debate someone on this issue but please read my whole post before posting. It makes the debate more enjoyable if you post your feelings to each of my points and then state your final words. Thanks and also keep it on topic.
Well the standard drop, if you read the Wiki causes unconsciousness, while the long drop, or the "measured drop" wasn't meant for decapitation but still happened in a few cases, most notably the outlaw "Black Jack" Ketchum. But decapitation causes instant death, even though some people claim that they thought the head was still alive with the guillotine.
Now I do think some crimes do deserve the death pentalty, but I think the risk of executing an innocent is too big a risk to take.
I don't. It's not all that common for innocent people to be sent to prison for murder. It happens occasionally, but we can't be afraid of mistakes. By protecting the few people who were unjustly accused and sentenced to death, we allow thousands more murderers to live on. Killers aren't worth our penny, but we give them a good life. People in prison eventually adapt. Those people make their prison home.
The reason why so many people are against death penalties is because it's a "sin". I accept the fact that our country is influenced by religion, but religion should not interfear with such decisions such as the death penalty.
Mike and I have debated this many times, and I have come to this conclusion. I don't believe in the Eye-for-an-eye type of punishment. I feel that reformation should come before any type of punishment. however, there are some people who are just crazed killers who can't be helped. those people aren't worth the government's money to be kept in prison forever, because they will never be able to contribute to society. people like those do deserve the death penalty.
I agree, life without parole would be illogical. Better to enforce the death penalty, rather than have us pay to keep them alive. It may seem a little cold blooded, but we're really doing them a favor as well.
I think it's right. Should we pay taxes to keep killers alive? And I totally agree with what Texas is doing, if there's 3 witnesses or more, you get jumped to first inline for the needle, some states are trying to abolish it, Texas is putting in an express lane. That's how I believe it should be done.
Do you think that it's right to kill people because they have killed someone? Isn't that a bit paradox?
The reason why so many people are against death penalties is because it's a "sin". I accept the fact that our country is influenced by religion, but religion should not interfear with such decisions such as the death penalty.
I don't have any links or statistics yet, I'm still researching how many murderers have been successfully rehabilitated.
For now I'll just state my opinion. Yes, one of the Ten Commandments is, "Thou shalt not Kill". Yes, in the era of Moses and Jesus people were "stoned to death" for not obeying God's rules. Yes, Jesus commanded us to, "Love your neighbor as yourself" but He also told us to obey the laws of Caesar, and, "give to Caesar that which is Caesar's", which just means that we are to pay taxes, etc.
My Bible also tells me that my boby is the Temple of God. It's my job to protect myself, my sleeping teenager, my neighbors if they need help, etc. It isn't my place to "judge others, lest I be judged likewise".
What statistics I have reviewed show that our prison system is woefully over crowded which is making prisoners more vunerable to "inside gangs". We have state laws for capital punishment for a reason and there are less than 40 states that approve/enforce it. Yes, Texas, since capital punishment was first used is the highest in total executions but California would be the highest. Today it holds a little less than 680 inmates on death row, why? Something in our supreme court system, or our laws on murder just isn't adding up. Rehabilitation was supposed to make our cities safer, lower our taxes because more revenue would be freed up when the inmates could be returned to the community and the work force. Obviously, maybe only to me, rehabilitation for "harden" criminals isn't working. My stomach turns inside out at just the thought of having to point my gun at another human being but that individual ceases to be a human being if it's coming at me like a wild animal and that's exactly what a murderer is. Let the investigation prove the facts. Let the judge make the verdict. And, let's leave the capital punishment law alone.
I disagree with the CIA's "cold war" method of torture but why not bring back public "stocks" like the type that's on display at Williamsburg,VA for attempted murder? Why not bring back the last hanging gallows that had a trap-door on the floor where the accused stands, underneath is a hinged support beam that's rigged to collapse when the weight of the person has caused enough water to "spring, ha,ha, the trap". Totally eliminates the "hangman". The murderer hangs himself, case closed.
If one is executed for killing another, why aren't executioners executed?
Good question, it is believed that they are doing everyone a favor. In that which they are getting rid of the criminals of society, or providing justice to the involved by executing the criminal.
