I haven't been on much lately so I decided I would post my own topic. I don't believe this topic has been done recently since I checked the stickied thread with topics. I will state my reasons on why I believe the death penalty should be put in place for all murderers. It is fine if you disagree but let's make this a good and clean debate. Don't just say "You are wrong." Alright, well here I go.
1) I will start off by saying that the death penalty (that is only for mass murderers) was recently stopped because they said the method was too painful. So, someone who brutally murdered one or more people should die besides feeling the same pain? Where is the justice in that? I believe that you should get what you give. If you do good deeds, then you should be rewarded nicely. If you kill someone, you should be killed.
2) The next part I will go into is jail. Oh yes, we make jail seem like the worst place possible. Bed, toilet, workout room, safety, and 3 square meals per day. Now, safety is different in different jails. I know that so it can't exactly be supported. However, why do we give them a workout room or some sort of a place to lift weights? I am curious to this. Okay, so we are making rapists stronger and making it easier for them to rape when they get out. Why do they need 3 square meals per day? I went to a soup kitchen last year and I almost cried at how many homeless walked in because they didn't have anything to eat. We are treating criminals better than people who never harmed anyone. Where is the justice in that? Don't tell me the homeless made bad choices because it can happen to anyone. Also, bad choices? What about the person who chose to kill someone? I think that angers me the most. Really, jail looks like heaven to some people so they hurt someone else.
3) I will go into the issue of money. It costs us around $30,000 per year to take care of ONE convict. Now, I am just supporting the death penalty for murderers. The people who never harmed anyone are taking care of people who killed other people. What is wrong with this picture? We are taking care of them instead of the poor who never hurt people. That money could go to so many good issues like cures and health care. I will say the green movement just for you, Carlie. Anyways, now you will say it costs too much to use the death penalty. I think we should kill the murderer the exact same way the murderer killed someone else. This leads me into my next point.
4) Can you imagine going through the pain of being killed? Let's take it through the victim's point of view. Can you imagine the torture of what happened before you died? The pain would be terrible if the murderer stabbed the victim 100 times. I know the victim would die before that but it shows a point. That is why I believe the murderer should be killed the same way. Let them feel what it is like to go through that. Now, let's take it through the family's point of view. Your relative was just murdered. Now, be honest, what would you like to happen to the person that killed them? You would most likely want them dead which is why the death penalty should be put in place.
5) I know we can't be 100% sure of who the murderer was. However, DNA is 99.99% so very close. Also, why would their DNA even be on the victim or around the scene of the crime? They most likely had something to do with it. That makes them eligible to receive the death penalty. Also, the people we are not sure of can be put in jail. Jails are over filling so criminals are being released earlier then their original sentences. I know this because my aunt was released about a year before her sentence was completely served.
I will state my final words. I want to make it even more clear that the death penalty should only be given to murderers. The other criminals can be put in jail. The murderer should feel the same pain the victim did. Rotting in jail is a bunch of bull. Yes, to some it is crap while it is heaven to others. Why are we paying for murderers to have a life with food and beds? You would want the murderer of your family member dead. You would not just say they can go to jail. DNA is not exact but it is only .01% possibly wrong. That is pretty darn good. You may say two wrongs don't make a right but that makes no sense at all. So, if someone cheats on a test and is given a failing grade for cheating...would you say that then? The same applies to the death penalty. The death penalty is simply a consequence for their actions.
I would love to debate someone on this issue but please read my whole post before posting. It makes the debate more enjoyable if you post your feelings to each of my points and then state your final words. Thanks and also keep it on topic.
Convicts are more then likely to call a hit on the judge or lawyer that put them in jail. I don't really want to know how they could pay for it. They could have a secret stash of money. It is all up to who the convict is. My point is that even though life in prison is cheaper at first, you never know what can happen when they are in jail. Also, what happens when one inmate kills another?
Look if we're going down this road we can also say that the convicts who are sentenced to death may have friends who in turn kill witnesses/judges/other innocents. The cost of both is incalculable, but they're probably both fairly close to each other. In reference to inmates killing each other, those that are a risk can be kept in solitary confinement.
I already said we are at a standstill. The death penalty is equally good and bad. I think we should put it to a national vote and see the outcome. Either that or all of the legal employees will vote on it. I would rather have it be a national vote.
id rather have the death penalty beacuse we pay for the prisonres to live on death row and some dont even get executed but some have been proven innocent....
Honestly I wouldn't say it's a standstill. Life in prison is better economically, it's better psychologically and emotionally for the victims families, it causes less distress to the prisoner (which can be good if it turns out their innocent, remember that they're still human beings), and there's no chance of punishing an innocent in a way we can't ever hope to make up (which I think is the most important moral point we can make). Ultimately it comes down to a moral argument of whether you believe in an eye for an eye if you're willing to ignore all of the benefits that life in prison has over the death penalty which is why you and I will just have to agree to disagree on this issue.
some of you people are monsters. Killing them for their crimes makes you just as bad as them(well not as bad but it's still wrong!) killing someone for any reason is awful
Hey, iceburn, we're actually doing the country a favor by getting rid of these scumbags. The death penalty is a way to at least clean up some of the damage this nation has endured with Bush in office. We don't need murderers and rapists and molesters out there causing a bunch of bullshit when everyone is already suffering enough. Honestly.
@soulpiper, we're doing a favor? How is killing them a favor? Getting back at a murderer doesn't make the situation any better. Incarcerating a prisoner for life will keep those, "scumbags," from hurting people.
Stuff like this will always happen, and not all of it can be stopped. Of course we don't need them on the street, but if they do those things, they will will be caught and sent to prison. It's not like being in a prison is just a place for criminals. They might learn from their past, and IF they get out, they should be under close surveillance.
Exactly. Killing an innocent person isn't forgivable. The families, friends, and relatives of those victims suffer from the loss. I'm sorry, but if they get a thrill out of killing an innocent person they deserve to be sent to the hell they belong in. Putting them in prison and letting them go isn't helping anything because they could do it again.
The death penalty is in my opinion hypocritical. Killing someone for killing someone else just seems wromg to me. I think life imprisonment for serious offenses is a much better choice. Some people say it gives the victims families more satisfaction but psychological research shows that due to the victims families loss they dont want more people to die because they dont want others to suffer griefsubconsciously. Personally if someone murdered someone in my family i would rather they rot in prison for the rest of their days. also in the cases whrere they get it wrong and kill an innocent there is no counter argument to that. No matter how accurate foensic evidence no one can ever be fully 100% sue and i think the risk of killing one or two innocents is enogh to not enstate the death penalty. I have no qualms with killing. I a a fighter pilt for crying out loud but this is i think one of the worlds greater social evils.
