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Communist
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who thinks communism is good, bad , or misunderstood?
i think communism was currupt by that monster Stalin an therefore, it became hard for that form of government to be truely used as Marx had intended it.

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dieath
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you're totally mixing up what communism has been and what it ideally is. it has never once been this utopia paradise beacause it ives at one point or another government too much power and then it is abused

Blu3sBr0s
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you're totally mixing up what communism has been and what it ideally is


What communism has been, isn't communism, therefore communism hasn't been, we've just called it communism.
Sssssnnaakke
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No.....
Communism is a type of Goverment/idea to make a Utopia. SO far it has failed.

dieath
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dieath
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no thats not confusing at all..(little sarcasm)

Green12324
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What communism has been, isn't communism, therefore communism hasn't been, we've just called it communism.


For those of you who don't understand, he's saying that communism has never been able to exist how Marx said it should be. It's always been altered by corrupt governments.

A lot of countries that are called communist started as communism, but very quickly turned into totalitarianism. Then no one bothered to acknowledge the change, so it's still called a communist country.
IaXe
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For those of you who don't understand, he's saying that communism has never been able to exist how Marx said it should be. It's always been altered by corrupt governments.

A lot of countries that are called communist started as communism, but very quickly turned into totalitarianism. Then no one bothered to acknowledge the change, so it's still called a communist country.


Nicely said.

I hope there isn't someone who still doesn't get it..(it's fairly simple)
VoteSocialist
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COMMUNISM IS NOT A GOVERNMENT


You people need to get that through your very thick heads! Leninism and Stalinism are governments that want to take a different rout to communism; but for the time being they used extreme socialism and a party-lead revolution that basically said "FOLLOW US AND WE'LL MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER."

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Look, I have no intention to argue with some one who constantly uses "for f's sake" or "****". My reasons are: Free health care causes you to make appointments months ahead.


Just thought I'd put my two sense in guys .. haha. I'm afraid you've been guzzling too much properganda up there. I'm from Aus, we have universal healthcare, today I booked an appointment in the morning, for 2 in the afternoon. My doctor was great and probably also earnt a great salary. I got all my shots updated, a checkup and some antibiotics for an annoying little throat bug. What did it cost me? Not one cent. You can have your own doctor, you're not assigned one (I constantly hear people ramble about this). Worst case scenario, I would have been given an appointment tomorrow if they were too busy. If you are on a public waiting list for an operation, you have all the right to go to a private hospital and pay for it yourself. Or you can wait a bit, and have it for free. The point is, those without the means to afford private healthcare have other means to obtain it.

Best of all, if I cut off my finger, I can go straight to the emergency room, and they won't ask for my insurance details, nor will they charge me to put it back on.

I think we need a bit of thought here. Companies in America are profiting off your illnesses, as hospitals are. There are specific experts hired by health insurance companies whose prime concern is to make sure they find a loophole in your health insurance agreement. Perspective? Hospitals want you sick, and Health Insurance companies don't want to pay you. They are businesses, not there for your benefit, but there to profit.

As a little side note, universities (or colleges I guess, over there) work well on a similar system. I'm at university, and I haven't had to pay a cent. Instead, the goverment gives uni students a HECS loan (which pays all fees) that I don't have to pay back until I earn a salary which is deemed to be high middle class over here. And even then, it's a small amount every week. I get a centrelink payment (like welfare) so I can attend uni fulltime and still eat, live, etc, without working hecticly through my degree. ... I can only really see benefits here?

Anyway, I'm not a communist by any account, but I'm sick of universal healthcare being painted this a terrible, socialistic notion. Perhaps you need to sit back and think who's painting that picture, and why...
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WTF?! Stop necroing!

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Take North Korea and South Korea. South Korea wasn't Communist, and North Korea was- and Northern Korea had more money to begin with. Now, North Korea has nothing and South Korea actually has money.

And back in the 80s, eastern Berlin was Communist and Western was Capitalist- and the Communists built a wall to keep it that way- then they tore it down. And guess what? The western side was rich and prosperous. And the Commmunist side? Not so much.

Communism is not misunderstood. It is practically the worst form of government around. Not to be offensive or anything.

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